Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

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Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Uilium » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:52 pm

Hey there,
One can get special powers through mindfulness? That's the first time I ever heard mindfulness could do that.If someone has these powers, it only proves that one is very proficient in mindfulness of conceptual reality, ultimate reality or both? I guess I always just assumed "powers" could only come from samadhi concentration but I don't know -Thanks
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Timpan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:39 am

We have people our temple " meditation group" who have developed some skills or powers but this is usually from attaining higher levels of jhanas. I can not give you say if this is possible only with mindfulness but what i do know is that mindfulness leads to higher concentration and that can result in developing such.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:53 am

Yes, there's a discourse in the scriptures where it is said that the practice of mindfulness can lead to mind reading.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:40 am

Modus.Ponens wrote:Yes, there's a discourse in the scriptures where it is said that the practice of mindfulness can lead to mind reading.


I thought traditionally special powers were associated with attaining the jhanas?
Well, oi dunno...
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Zom » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:21 pm

I thought traditionally special powers were associated with attaining the jhanas?


This is because jhanas are the states of the supreme mindfulness .)

PS: 4 foundations of mindfulness (satipatthanas) are said to be "samadhi nimittas" in the suttas, that is, "themes" or "objects" of the mind in samadhi.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Digity » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Yes, special power is developing awareness and understanding what's going on in your mind to put an end to suffering.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby polarbuddha101 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:34 am

Digity wrote:Yes, special power is developing awareness and understanding what's going on in your mind to put an end to suffering.


The foremost power indeed.

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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby reflection » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:46 am

It already starts with the power to be mindful. Quite a special one, already.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby marc108 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:10 pm

Digity wrote:Yes, special power is developing awareness and understanding what's going on in your mind to put an end to suffering.


:twothumbsup: indeed!
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:53 pm

Greetings,

polarbuddha101 wrote:
Digity wrote:Yes, special power is developing awareness and understanding what's going on in your mind to put an end to suffering.


The foremost power indeed.

:goodpost:

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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby PadmaPhala » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:11 am

Modus.Ponens wrote:Yes, there's a discourse in the scriptures where it is said that the practice of mindfulness can lead to mind reading.


indeed, but how is mind reading useful for the practice?
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby SarathW » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:15 pm

Some info from a very valuable source:

http://www.aimwell.org/Books/Mahasi/Cul ... Formations
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:54 pm

Yes. 100 % Possible. I have "gifts" which are underdeveloped which become stronger through mindfulness and meditation.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:56 pm

Let me tell you what these "powers' are. It is us becoming closer to what we really are. It is not something "special". When we meditate and are mindful, we return to our "normal" state. These "powers" are acquired by returning to who we really are, so it is not us "gaining" these powers, It is us "returning" to these powers we already have. A quote that I have read that is true, "We are not human beings having spiritual experiences, We are spiritual beings having human experiences."
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:07 pm

Strive4Karuna wrote:Yes. 100 % Possible. I have "gifts" which are underdeveloped which become stronger through mindfulness and meditation.


Im sorry but realized this said "through mindfulness" not through "mindfulness and or meditation". I know for sure through the combination of both yes it is possible. Through mindfulness a lone? Im not sure.
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Be VERY AWARE, not to get corrupted by powers. We do not pratice in order to gain special powers to think we are better then everybody else. NO. Everybody has the potential to gain these powers but we pratice in order to end our suffering and attain the ultimate goal. NOT, to gain special powers. Remember this!!
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Uilium » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:21 am

Zom wrote:
I thought traditionally special powers were associated with attaining the jhanas?


This is because jhanas are the states of the supreme mindfulness .)

PS: 4 foundations of mindfulness (satipatthanas) are said to be "samadhi nimittas" in the suttas, that is, "themes" or "objects" of the mind in samadhi.


Oh yeah right. I mean mindfulness mindfulness...I mean mindfulness where you concentrate on reality instead of concept
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Uilium » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:30 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

polarbuddha101 wrote:
Digity wrote:Yes, special power is developing awareness and understanding what's going on in your mind to put an end to suffering.


The foremost power indeed.

:goodpost:

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Retro. :)


Yes...well maybe being able to be mindful on the first breath in the morning until you fall asleep?
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Re: Can one get special powers through mindfulness?

Postby Crazy cloud » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:19 am

After an experience of what somebody call "meditation madness" (and let the mind cool down isolated from other people), I'v had a period of a couple of months of a special mindful state. Could "read minds" by just watching the "non-verbal language", and it was very interesting to have that ability, but also a little disturbing. Disturbing, because it gave a certain feeling of being able to control other people. It's facinating to just watch the other persons changing "masks" to accomodate all different personal situations and needs, and to be able to "see" what is really going on in their ordinary minds.

But all of this wasn't to me, a "special power", it was just a period of "extreme" and stable mindfulness.

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