Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

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Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

Postby Mojo » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:27 pm

Do you practice metta before, during, or after vipassana? By during, I mean in a way similar to the way Bhante Vimalaramsi teaches.

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Re: Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

Postby FatDaddy » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:30 pm

I routinely do it before. If I have a ling time to sit (> 1hr), I do it afterwards as well.
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Re: Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

Postby Mojo » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:54 pm

I suppose there should be another option of neither - in that I suppose some people who practice both may choose too practice them at different times of the day. I've only ever meditated once per day on a regular basis but am starting to think that twice a day might be a good option. Perhaps metta early in the day where there is less likely to be distraction and then vipassana later when I can always just take the distractions as objects of mindfulness?

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Re: Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

Postby BlackBird » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 am

I generally do some metta before any meditation session. It really helps calm the mind and kick starts the sense of joy. It helps for regardless of whether I'm doing insight or samatha, but probably more so with samatha.
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Re: Metta before, during, or after vipassana?

Postby Ben » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:51 am

After, and then spontaneously during the day.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

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sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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