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Those chirping birds

On the cultivation of insight/wisdom
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Those chirping birds

Postby Mojo » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:45 pm

I like to spend my two 15 min breaks at work doing vipassana outside but the birds never stop chirping. So most of my time is spent being mindful of their sound and nothing else. Its this helpful? If I'm not bothered by the sound is it ok to just go back to breathing our something else?

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby kirk5a » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:17 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Ben » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:45 pm

Being mindful of chirping birds is good, but finding a quiet place to meditate is (imho) better.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:16 pm

If I really wanted to meditate, I would tune them out just as I tune out (e.g.) the sound of the air-con.
But I like birds, so I might just decide to enjoy them and meditate some other time.

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby SarathW » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:39 pm

When I meditate I hear all type of noises.
Birds, aeroplanes (I can see the runway from my lounge), car slamming doors, school nearby, car acceleration,tuck engine braking, just to name a few.
I just observe how my attention is shifting from one object to another (mind and body)
I never thought it is a hindrance to my meditation.
I try to stay (flow) in the present moment with knowledge without attachment and aversion.
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Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:21 am

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby reflection » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:03 am

It's absolutely fine to go back to the breathing. I'd recommend it. You may find the sounds of the birds become less noticeable.

Just as somebody else said, also here there are always sounds. Cars, birds, neighbors, street work, kids coming out of school etc. But if my meditation goes well, I don't hear any of those and just see the breathing.

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Buckwheat » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:09 pm

Personally, I like to meditate where there is some kind of non-passion inducing stimulus, a white noise if you will. I find that if there is absolutely no stimulus, I tend to go off into a fantasy land, coming back to realize that I wasn't really meditating after all. When there are mild stimuli such as traffic, birds, etc, then I am able to watch how my mind bounces from perception to perception, gaining insight and actually getting a more clear and peaceful mental state. Of course, something like TV, radio, and most social situations are much too stimulating and give fuel to the hindrances.

Plus, with the great variety of birds calls, you can perceive how you enjoy some and dislike others, thus seeing how our ability to like / dislike is quite frivolous.
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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Kamran » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:09 am

I love to meditate outside in the morning when birds are chirping.

I feel happy for the birds, going through the process of life like myself.

Then I focus intently on the feeling itself, making appreciative joy my meditation object, and watch it grow.

I combine this with the breath and it is very pleasant experience.
"Silence gives answers"

Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Rumi

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby pegembara » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:30 am

And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Those chirping birds

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby pegembara » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:10 pm

And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:30 am

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Re: Those chirping birds

Postby Pacceka1996 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:32 am

um... maybe just go with the sound. It is just a sound. a vibration of air molecules. observe without cognizance.


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