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Downloading books you have had physical copies of

Postby BlackBird » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:52 am

Hi all

I can't seem to find my copy of Ven. Analayo's Satipatthana book. I can't remember whether I just misplaced it or whether I left it in Wellington or whether I gave it away. I came across a pdf on scribd, and I'm wondering if it's a violation of the 2nd precept for me to download it given that I've purchased multiple copies of it in past?

It would seem to me that it would not violate the spirit of the 2nd precept, but would it violate the letter?

Looking forward to your responses.

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Postby Modus.Ponens » Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:04 am

Neither the letter nor the spirit. The spirit you said so yourself. The letter, no because you are not taking away an object that belongs to a person to keep it to yourself, depriving that person from the usage and ownership of the object. You are copying the object, leaving that person with the original object to herself.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
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Postby Reductor » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:38 am

I've thought about this whole electronic property stuff, and I just don't have a certain answer; I would suggest, however, that, because you have paid for the material in the past and so have remunerated the publisher for their costs, you're not doing any real harm in downloading an electronic version now.

Secondly, the Venerable would likely not mind if you had an electronic copy of his material, seeing as it is dhamma and he's in the habit of being open handed with that stuff. Actually, this point should be firstly, and the point above should be secondly.

This argument is not water tight, as it could be seen that you're depriving the publisher of potential earnings. But to me this is silly, and to allow it to stand would allow us to be forced to make all kinds of purchases we just don't want. "Buy this TV", "No, I don't need it.", "Buy it, or you're depriving us our earnings and will be taken to court." :tongue:

Anyway, that's all I got right now.

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Postby Samma » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:56 am

The Corporate Body of the Buddha Educational Foundation has a copy up. I'm assuming they got permission, but who knows. Well, they are giving it away... Be a generous person, don't cause harm, don't sweat this small stuff.
http://www.budaedu.org/ebooks/6-EN.php

Might be of interest:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7499
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Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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