Maine hermit discovered after 27 years

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Ben wrote: Despite the book deal and marriage proposal - I wonder whether this is just a tragedy in the making. After 27 years of seclusion and silence re-entering society via jail/prison and international media attention is probably a recipe for disaster.
Anyway, much metta to him.
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You said it. Unless of course his meditation has led to an ability to deal with such stresses. It's a shame he was a stealing to survive. It's cases like this where you sort of wish you could have introduced the guy to a monastery, where he could have had all he wanted (solitude) without the thievery.

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Ben wrote:After 27 years of seclusion and silence re-entering society via jail/prison and international media attention is probably a recipe for disaster.
Anyway, much metta to him.
You are assuming that this is a re-entry to society. My deluded hope is that he learns his lesson, moves to California, and does the same thing minus the theft.
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Buckwheat wrote:
Ben wrote:After 27 years of seclusion and silence re-entering society via jail/prison and international media attention is probably a recipe for disaster.
Anyway, much metta to him.
You are assuming that this is a re-entry to society. My deluded hope is that he learns his lesson, moves to California, and does the same thing minus the theft.
Yes, Buckwheat, I am assuming a re-entry to society. I think he is too curious an oddity for the media to leave him alone. In time, that attention will disappear but I do think the sudden re-entry, perhaps jail, perhaps some temporary celebrity status, may have a deliterious effect. And you are right, they are just assumptions I am making and I could be wrong.
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I would be curious to know how he managed to survive. I was told there is another american guy in Myanmar who has spent a decade or so alone in the forest.
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Sekha wrote:I would be curious to know how he managed to survive. I was told there is another american guy in Myanmar who has spent a decade or so alone in the forest.
Infinitely easier in Myanmar where you have a culture which supports bhikkhus. It would not surprise me if the American gentleman living alone in Myanmar is ordained.
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If I remember properly, he is just an ascetic ("isi" in Burmese) because he doesn't want to be affiliated to a particular monastic sect. He surely benefits from the people's generosity, but it's still the heck of a performance even in warm tropical climate. I wish I were able to do the same.

I was told he has eventually been forced to join a monastery for administrative purposes.
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Sekha wrote:I was told he has eventually been forced to join a monastery for administrative purposes.
Yes, I can't imagine the Dept of Immigration looking to kindly on an American overstaying his visa for the better part of ten years.
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I was actually told it did last for a decade or so because he was kind of protected by a high profile official. But unfortunately this protection was not to last forever.
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Ben wrote: you don't need a fire to stay warm or cook.
being a young city-dweller I don't know too much about camping. How can one stay warm or cook without a fire?
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ccharles wrote:
Ben wrote: you don't need a fire to stay warm or cook.
being a young city-dweller I don't know too much about camping. How can one stay warm or cook without a fire?
The article stated that he stole propane tanks and cooked with it.

Also, there are sleeping bags rated to -30F. I have slept in such bags at near those temperatures and they do manage to keep you warm. Although, you have to cover your face or your breath will freeze on your face. I suspect during the coldest winter days he probably didn't leave his sleeping bag for very long.
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poto wrote:
ccharles wrote:
Ben wrote: you don't need a fire to stay warm or cook.
being a young city-dweller I don't know too much about camping. How can one stay warm or cook without a fire?
The article stated that he stole propane tanks and cooked with it.

Also, there are sleeping bags rated to -30F. I have slept in such bags at near those temperatures and they do manage to keep you warm. Although, you have to cover your face or your breath will freeze on your face. I suspect during the coldest winter days he probably didn't leave his sleeping bag for very long.
Yes, I have one of those bags but rated to -32C. If you also look at his set up, it looks quite smart how he set up his sleeping area in a tent within a larger tent/or tarp. But I also agree that he probably didn't leave his sleeping bag much during winter.
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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