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Losing Touch of Reality

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
Strive4Karuna
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Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:45 pm

I feel like I have lost touch of reality. Living mindfully helps us bring ourselves back to what is real. When I am mindful the experience is very overwhelming. When I am unmindful, I am a kid stuck in the exact same phase of his life, never growing up. When I am mindful, suddenly I see myself for where I am right now, the age I am, I am 20 and become 20, not 20 living like he is 14 years old. I need to know, is this because I have fallen into an inferior state where not only am I unmindful but even less mindful then the norm where I completely lose touch with reality. When I am mindful, it is like people see me, when I am unmindful it is like i am invisible. I am an "Indigo" born with a third eye. When I am mindful, my third eye becomes active and I penetrate deep into reality, I need to know what is considered "normal" for someone who is unmindful and "unnormal" for someone who is unmindful. Have I made it a habit my entire life to live in a way that is so dillusive I lose touch even with those who live unmindfully?

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:10 pm

Please provide more concrete parameters by which we can evaluate if you are less mindful than normal. I would say that it's normal to have 20 and feel like 14. Nothing out of the usual. However, the title of the thread worries me.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

Strive4Karuna
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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:18 pm


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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Strive4Karuna » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:30 pm

I know I have been blessed with gifts which are not normal. I now need to sort out what is my ignorance and what is my gift. I have been born to help people. I have the ability to help people a long their path I know this. As a child I could see details and analyze people in ways that no adult could not to mention any other child. Right now, I need someone to guide me. To help me realize, what part of my experience is my gift. What part of my experience is my ignorance.

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

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Aloka
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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Aloka » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:08 pm

It might be worthwhile doing a retreat somewhere where there is an experienced meditation teacher -even if its just for a weekend.

Theres a worldwide search facility for centres and monasteries at the Buddhanet site:


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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:24 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Digity » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:36 am

I felt very out of touch with reality in my 20s. It could just be a phase. I feel much more grounded now and have a better understanding of the teachings. You should seek some guidance, if you can. Just make sure not to overwhelm yourself. The practice is meant to help you...not you make you lose touch with reality, etc.

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby manas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:10 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby BlackBird » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:55 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby Strive4Karuna » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:52 pm

Thanks for all the responses. My guess is, yes i live less mindful then most people yet at the same time my ability allows me to be more mindful then most when im focused. Right now it's all assumptions but it seems like its a double edges sword. I have met other people with third eye and visit an online community of people like me but I don't think there going through the same thing as me. I feel like I have so many issues to solve, the way I was raised when younger has pretty much destroyed me psychologically and being an "indigo" feeling like the outcast of outcast has killed me. Imagine living with no self esteem, no social skills and on top of that always feeling different. I have too many anxieties and can barely look anyone in the eyes without feeling uncomfortable. My anxieties are the reason for my level of mindfulness being less then the norm as they cloud my mind and push me into a pretty bad state of dillusiveness. I feel like I have to work extra hard when it comes to mindfulness because of my complications. I appreciate all the responses and took something from everyone.

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

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Re: Losing Touch of Reality

Postby K.Dhamma » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:40 pm

"Remember you dont meditate to get anything, but to get rid of things. We do it, not with desire, but with letting go. If you want anything, you wont find it." - Ajahn Chah


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