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What motivates Arahant?

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Re: What motivates Arahant?

Postby mogg » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:31 am

I heard that an Arahant will die within 7 days (?) unless he/she joins the sangha (I don't have the reference sorry). There is no reason to go on living except to teach the dhamma. This is why there are no lay Arahants described in the suttas (if they are a lay anagami and attain arahantship, they will join the sangha).

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Re: What motivates Arahant?

Postby Alex123 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:37 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Postby SarathW » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:16 am

“But in the case of a monk who has attained the cessation of perception & feeling, his bodily fabrications have ceased & subsided, his verbal fabrications ... his mental fabrications have ceased & subsided, his vitality is not exhausted, his heat has not subsided, & his faculties are exceptionally clear”.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

Motivation is a mental fabrication and do not applicable to Arahants.
The existing body of an Arahant was a result of his past Kamma and he/she will live until his past kamma, in regard to body is exhausted.
He/she will live with knowledge (wisdom) without attachment and anger.
He/she will exercise Brahama Viharas.

He may live in a house, temple or under a tree. He is not abide by rules (220 Vinaya rules)
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What motivates Arahant?

Postby Buckwheat » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:48 pm

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: What motivates Arahant?

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“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What motivates Arahant?

Postby Kamran » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:33 am

If interested, Analayao has published audio of a fascinating university course on the Arahant in Early Buddhist Discourse. It reviews the suttas in detail.

http://www.buddhismuskunde.uni-hamburg. ... es2012.htm
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Re: What motivates Arahant?

Postby acinteyyo » Tue May 07, 2013 8:46 pm

I think it's inappropriate to think about an arahant in the way like: "The arahant is hungry", "The arahant eats" or "An arahant experiences satisfaction". This only leads to a difficult thicket of odd views imho...

If one cannot put such considerations aside I think it's better to think about it like so:

There arises a feeling of a lack of nutriments due to certain conditions, which is commonly called "hunger" discovered by consciousness, which itself arose due to certain circumstances. These events are followed by results which emerge from causes triggered by the arising of the events before. A lot of things change while the conditions for the arising of the feeling of lack of nutriments ceases. The cessation of that feeling and the changes are notices by consciousness again... then there may be silence or not or other similar things may happen or not...

This way at least prevents the pitfall of dragging a hidden self-construct unto the image of an arahant which reveals itself later and leads to problems which were brought into the considerations from the very beginning just to make all this into a waste of time...

best wishes, acinteyyo
Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.


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