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Whose Buddhism is the truest? - Dhamma Wheel

Whose Buddhism is the truest?

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Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby cooran » Fri May 03, 2013 5:22 am

Hello all,

I found this article in Tricycle surprising and interesting:

Whose Buddhism is the truest?

http://www.tricycle.com/feature/whose-buddhism-truest

With metta
Chris
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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Kim OHara » Fri May 03, 2013 5:28 am

Hi, Chris,
A good article, but I have seen it via DW before ... haven't got time just now to look for the older thread, however.

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Nyana » Fri May 03, 2013 5:45 am

It was discussed in this thread: .

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri May 03, 2013 5:45 am

Greetings,

"Harrison agrees with the general scholarly consensus that the Mahayana developed after the Buddha"

That's all I needed to know ~ thanks.

:buddha1:

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby plwk » Fri May 03, 2013 5:55 am

I can't help but to think that IF the Mahasamghikas and Sarvastivadins were still around, they would have given Theravada a run for the money... lol

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Postby Kare » Fri May 03, 2013 6:45 am

Mettāya,
Kåre

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby tiltbillings » Fri May 03, 2013 6:53 am

I am all for the school that thought the Buddha's poop smelled like sandalwood.

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Rasko » Fri May 03, 2013 12:09 pm

Traces of Gandhāran Buddhism: An Exhibition of Buddhist Manuscripts in the Schøyen Collection
Jens Braarvig and Fredrik Liland
With contributions by: Jens-Uwe Hartmann, Kazunobu Matsuda, Richard Salomon, Lore Sander
2010
http://www.indologie.uni-muenchen.de/do ... alogue.pdf

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby alan » Fri May 03, 2013 1:57 pm

I no longer waste time with that Tricycle, which seems to have ulterior motives.

This article is a good example of what they often present as research. Lots of words which sound impressive, a few true facts intermingled with an assumed conclusion. Nothing was proven, but the feel of authenticity lingers. As usual, we are lead to believe Buddhism is just a free-floating thing that no one can really get. Or maybe we all can, just tune in next month. Besides, who wants to waste time actually studying?

Oh, and buy our magazine.

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby binocular » Fri May 03, 2013 6:11 pm

Whose Buddhism is truest?


"Monks, do not wage wordy warfare, saying: 'You don't understand this Dhamma and discipline, I understand this Dhamma and discipline'; 'How could you understand it? You have fallen into wrong practices: I have the right practice'; 'You have said afterwards what you should have said first, and you have said first what you should have said afterwards';[1] 'What I say is consistent, what you say isn't'; 'What you have thought out for so long is entirely reversed'; 'Your statement is refuted'; 'You are talking rubbish!'; 'You are in the wrong'; 'Get out of that if you can!'

"Why should you not do this? Such talk, monks, is not related to the goal, it is not fundamental to the holy life, does not conduce to disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, tranquillity, higher knowledge, enlightenment or to Nibbana. When you have discussions, monks, you should discuss Suffering, the Arising of Suffering, its Cessation, and the Path that leads to its Cessation. Why is that? Because such talk is related to the goal... it conduces to disenchantment... to Nibbana. This is the task you must accomplish."



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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby polarbear101 » Fri May 03, 2013 9:21 pm

Whatever buddhism when adopted and undertaken leads to the total abandoning of passion, aversion, and delusion is the truest.

:anjali:
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby manas » Fri May 03, 2013 11:15 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Ben » Fri May 03, 2013 11:22 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Kare » Sat May 04, 2013 10:21 am

Mettāya,
Kåre

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby Viscid » Sat May 04, 2013 9:12 pm

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby dharmagoat » Sat May 04, 2013 11:03 pm

The Buddha's?

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Re: Whose Buddhism is the truest?

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun May 05, 2013 1:22 am

“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig


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