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Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby Ben » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:26 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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Postby Sam Vara » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:33 pm

Sam Harris thinks and prepares in graphic and painful detail about confronting a homicidal person armed with a knife. I spend next to no time on it. To date, the results have been much the same for both of us.

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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby Ben » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:14 pm

Hi Sam,

I don't think that's a valid argument. One can say the same about you.
"Sam Vara has practiced Dhamma for x years and I have spent no time on it, and we are exactly at the same point."
Sam Harris is a philospher and neuroscientist. Just because he analyses a potential situation in graphic and great detail does not mean that he is heavily invested in it. Harris is merely illustrating an argument.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby Ben » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:26 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby JackV » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:13 pm

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 18256.html - Whilst admittedly unrelated to the overall subject of this thread I just thought this makes interesting reading. I have always found Sam Harris a curious (and unpleasent) character, a admirer of Buddhism but a hate filled man. Seems as though my belief that he bordered on being a Fascist might be more accurate than I thought.
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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby wizi » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:28 am

He responded to the Al Jazeera article here : http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text ... troversy2/ and doesn't come across as a fascist at all. His observation on the different teachings on violence by religions is validly argued if you don't hold a blind spot on Islamic tenets that urge violence against unbelievers.

I must admit I was also quite unsettled by his recent essays on martial arts and meditation, but I reckon his latest exploration may yield insights on the mindful nature of violence and peace. Is he truly middle aged at 44 yrs? I don't think so :thinking: I am 44 yrs and don't think that's middle-aged at all! :smile:
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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby Ben » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:32 am

Dear Wizi,
44 is young.
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Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby wizi » Tue May 07, 2013 12:22 pm

Dear Ben,

Thanks for the reassurance! :toast:

There's actually a survey that suggests middle aged starts from 55 :sage:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19622330

Did u read this article that was a prelude to the one you posted? I think it seems to explain Harris' fascination with meditation and violence.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... me/309292/

"Harris clearly craves the feeling that he has dispelled an illusion—whether about the effectiveness of a left hook or about the divinity of Jesus."
All beings like yourself are responsible for their own actions. Suffering or happiness is created through one's relationship to experience, not by experience itself. Although I wish only the best for you, I know that your happiness or unhappiness depends on your actions, not on my wishes for you.
May you not be caught in reactivity.

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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby Ben » Tue May 07, 2013 12:30 pm

Thank you Wizi, no wonder I feel so young despite my age!
I'll check out the article you recommended.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Interesting interview with Sam Harris on meditatio

Postby fivebells » Tue May 07, 2013 6:20 pm

I'm glad Sam Harris is already doing metta meditation, because he clearly desperately needs it. :)


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