fatigue, apathy, flashbacks, and constipation. Over a quarter reported insomnia, nightmares, anhedonia, impaired memory, attention deficit and decreased libido. Rarer side effects included panic attacks, impaired learning, tremor, jaundice, urticaria (hives) and myalgia. Frequent and long-term usage at very high doses could possibly lead to toxic psychosis and other permanent psychological problems.
Again am not encouraging it but... this is more bull**t than the classic anti-drug commercials against marijuana. I have experienced a part of the above at very, very low intensity and only while on the drug. I was never bothered by side effects. Beside that, none of them is proven by studies. An objective analise can be found here http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq ... ects.shtml
When you first came on here dxm I was wondering if your name referred to the drug found in cough syrup that teenagers often "robo-trip" on.
Picked it so that I am imposible to be found by any romanians while googling. They would burn me on the stake
lol seriously did not want anybody who knows me to find out about me been a budhist so I changed my nickname in this. About teenagers robo trippin on it lol, you can see why the nr1 psichadellic is so underestimated. It is also due to it;s price and avaliability.
Also, you are taking dxm way too often. Basically you're saying that you have been overdosing on cough syrup every few days for a month in order to meditate, when you think about it that way, doesn't it seem rather silly?
Not only am I taking it too often but I am also using pretty high doses
I know this is not good and I quited all drugs for some time. I even quit weed and used to smoke non stop every day. I knew I had to do this a long time ago but I was not powerfull enough in my meditation to be detached enough to do it. This is the only drug that I am still using at the moment. Yawares had a nice post that helped in this aspect in her daily dharma thread but I can not find it. It was about a meditator who is using intoxicants is not a true meditator, so bad I can't find it.
I quited dxm for a time but I decided to do this "study" on meditation and dxm because I still belived something could be found there. I tried this before with no succes because of the way of practice and the wrong dosage. Half of the reason why I started is this, the other half is using this first reason as a justification to do it again cause I love it so much.
I know what is good and bad, my problem is the classic: been strong and developed enough to do what is good and not do what is bad
About the fact that it is not jhana because on the drug... :
I can asure you it is jhana because it is identical to what I experience when sober only that I am not able to get so far and do it so easy. A thing that takes out all of the debate is that it improved my sober meditation a lot. Told you where I was before the 1 month of doing this and where I am now. On this drug you do the same steps and the proces is extremelly clear, like sober but faster and more powerfull. There are no side effects of this drug like halucinations and stuff like that to make the experience even 1% more impure, if you use the right dosage. Saying it is not jhana cause it can;t be jhana on a drug is like saying it can;t be jhana in a sensual isolation chamber because it's not jhana in a sensual isolation chamber. It's not jhana in the monastery eather, cause the monastery is a place made to be suited for meditating. I also pointed out that this is the only drug out of hundreds existing witch can have this effect. I haven't tried them all but looking at their proprieties it is highly unprobable that there is another that could improve meditation even a little.
Of course this drug must have limitations but at least until the second jhana in concentration meditation there were none and I asume there will be non until the 4th also.
Do you know what it is about? Thinking about "ratio"... and so on, getting getting getting, getting it fast. You don't even know what you are after. You are missing the point.
I can see your point but I am after improving my concentration. Of course I am gona quit the drug and concentrate on vipassana meditation more but if I would be able to get at 4th jhana faster, by any means I would be very happy. I know you should be as detached as posible and that is the only way to walk the path but most people talk about this like they are and all of us should be totally detached like an arhant already in order to walk the path. I am not totally detached and I know that. One day hopefully I will be but for the moment I am just trying to be.