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Re: Arahants

Postby purple planet » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:56 am

Now reading a thread about merit i understood what is the most intersting thing to know

what does your friend think about merit ?

he became an arahant without to much merit and mostly concentrated on being mindful - right ?
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: Arahants

Postby ohnofabrications » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi,

I've never heard her talk about merit, but she was a nice enough person...

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Re: Arahants

Postby Chi » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 pm

I didn't read all the responses here, but I am pretty sure Sayadaw U Pandita is assumed by many to have reached the highest goal.
Do Good, Avoid Evil, Purify the Mind.

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Re: Arahants

Postby manas » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:52 am

Let's all become arahants. In this life or in a future life, but let's do it.

metta :anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Arahants

Postby polarbear101 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:22 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Arahants

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:45 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Any living Masters/Legends/Arahats?

Postby Zimesky » Fri May 31, 2013 8:45 pm

It always seems like that when I discover a teacher of such stature as Acariya Mun, Ajaan Boowa, Ajaan Chan or any other masters like them, I always seem to be a (give or take) a decade too late, and they will have passed on. These teachers leave behind incredible legacy's, stories, and lessons for us to learn from. This is a blunt question to be sure, and I fully understand some unwillingness to discuss this on a public forum. I'd be more than willing to discuss it privately. I'll take the risk of sounding like a fool, but are there any living masters, Arahats, Legends that are alive and well? To meet such a teacher, I would overcome and and all barriers, physical, mental, language you name it, to meet with them.

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Re: Any living Masters/Legends/Arahats?

Postby cooran » Fri May 31, 2013 9:02 pm

You may find this thread is of assistance:

Arahants
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1323

With metta,
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---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
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Re: Any living Masters/Legends/Arahats?

Postby Zimesky » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:35 am

Thanks for that great link! I don't want to narrow my scope to Arahatts, any information on great meditation teachers is also sought.

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Re: Any living Masters/Legends/Arahats?

Postby BlackBird » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:44 am

I don't think there are any arahants that are well known in the world today. If there are some they will most likely avoid being 'outed' so to speak, as it obviously leads to much more trouble than it's worth. Within my tradition I believe there are several ariyans, one of whom I've met whilst in Sri Lanka, but 95% of the Theravadin world wouldn't agree, so there you go.

That's the crux of it really. If you're an ariyan you don't want to get outed because of the trouble it causes - There would be just as many if not more disbelievers than believers and as an ariyan, your main motivation from teaching would have to be compassion, for the drive to reach arahantship once the path has been won is strong, you would just not want unnecessary distractions, the more expediently you can reach arahantship the better.

I've read Ajahn Maha Boowa's book on Ajahn Mun, and it's not my cup of tea by any stretch, I believe Ven. Boowa let his jhanas get the better of him and he fell into the unfortunate wrong view of eternalism, that much is quite clear from reading the book. I wouldn't call him enlightened and I personally doubt Ajahn Mun would have allowed his student to write such an embellished and frankly fictitious account. So no offense, but I don't think you missed out on much, besides a bit of jhanic bliss ;)

As for Ajahn Chah - Well the Jack jury's still out. He had a lot of wisdom, and was a meditator and teacher for the ages, that much is evident. I don't know if he was an arahant, and frankly I don't care.

What you should do is focus on taking what wisdom you can find in teachings that are available, and applying them to your life and practice. You don't need to have a meditation master in the room with you in order to make progress in the Buddha's dispensation.

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Any living Masters/Legends/Arahats?

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Re: Arahants

Postby chownah » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:51 pm

Ajahn Boowa used to be on Tv regularly giving talks....He chewed beetle while he talked and often there was a black dribble of the juice running down his chin. Before he died he announced that he did not want any elaborate funerary rites but the Thais couldn't resist and what they did was really ornate and bordering (perhaps reaching) the spectacular. I asked my wife about why they didn't do it like he wanted....she said that that was what he wanted but he was dead now.
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Re: Arahants

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Re: Arahants

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Re: Arahants

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:45 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Arahants

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Re: Arahants

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:16 am

Spot on Tilt. A side from being able to pick said ariyans brains for how to get there oneself, what good does it do you to know whether someone's an arahant or not. You've still got to do the work yourself. There's no short cuts in Dhamma.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Arahants

Postby Viscid » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:47 am

"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Arahants

Postby kirk5a » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:34 am

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230


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