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Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhana?

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Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhana?

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Postby frank k » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:22 pm

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Re: Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhan

Postby reflection » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:31 pm

Not if you want to be cremated. :tongue:

I tend not to put much weight on second hand stories such as this.
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Re: Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhan

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:32 pm

Is there any chance of gaining deep jhāna if buried alive?
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Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:13 pm

There is some health and safety guidance in SN41.6:

"In the case of a monk who has died & passed away, his bodily fabrication has ceased & subsided, verbal fabrication has ceased & subsided, mental fabrication has ceased & subsided, his life force is totally ended, his heat is dissipated, and his faculties are shut down. But in the case of a monk who has attained the cessation of perception & feeling, his bodily fabrication has ceased & subsided, verbal fabrication has ceased & subsided, mental fabrication has ceased & subsided, his life force is not ended, his heat is not dissipated, and his faculties are bright & clear. This is the difference between a monk who has died & passed away and a monk who has attained the cessation of perception & feeling."

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Re: Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhan

Postby Sam Vara » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:23 pm

Maybe mortuary attendants in Buddhist countries could try ringing a meditation bell, then stand back and see what happens...

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Re: Is there a risk of being buried alive while in Deep Jhan

Postby pilgrim » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:38 pm

I've heard of stories like these. Strictly from heresay, you can tell a person is in deep jhana and not dead if the area around his heart remains warm.

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Postby EmptyShadow » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:52 pm

I think you should worry more if you wake up during your autopsy and see your body chopped up. That would be probably unpleasant experience :thinking:

I think that in most countries funeral/cremation is performed couple days after death and it's very unlikely that spontaneous jhana will last more then several hours. I dont know about autopcy though :tongue:
But if you worry about this you can warn your family not to rush in conclusions too fast if you look dead. :D

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"My religion is very simple - my religion is ice-cream."
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Postby suriyopama » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:47 am

Thank you very much for the clarification, santa100.

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Postby gavesako » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:34 pm

Now the scientists claim to have discovered a "consciousness meter" to measure whether you are still in there or not:

http://www.livescience.com/38890-consci ... ments.html

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Postby mirco » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:23 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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