How do you contemplate anicca?

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Re: How do you contemplate anicca?

Postby SamKR » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:04 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

daverupa wrote:I'd like to hear how someone had insight into idapaccayata but not anicca.

So would I.

Further, I envisage there'll be little insight into idapaccayata if one's focus re: aniccata, is on mountains, fruit and such.

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Re: How do you contemplate anicca?

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:27 am

retrofuturist wrote:Further, I envisage there'll be little insight into idapaccayata if one's focus re: aniccata, is on mountains, fruit and such.


That's already been acknowledged, so I'm not sure why you're labouring the point.
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Re: How do you contemplate anicca?

Postby Spiny Norman » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:35 am

daverupa wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:I'd associate MN9 more with insight into specific conditionality than with insight into anicca - while acknowledging these are closely related.


One will get you the other.


Sure - I acknowledged they were closely related. It's really all dhamma vicaya, so I think what we're actually discussing are different directions of approach. You could argue that these distinctions are somewhat contrived.
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Re: How do you contemplate anicca?

Postby Paul Davy » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:45 am

Greetings Spiny,

Spiny Norman wrote:
retrofuturist wrote:Further, I envisage there'll be little insight into idapaccayata if one's focus re: aniccata, is on mountains, fruit and such.


That's already been acknowledged, so I'm not sure why you're labouring the point.

No it hadn't. "Idapaccayata" and "[inanimate objects]" had been mentioned separately, but until I did so, they had not been mentioned in connection.

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