On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

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On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby oceanfloor » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:22 am

Hi,

Before any further inquiry, I want to make my self clear about Sayadaw's technique. Please cmiiw:
1. In order to attain Nibbana, one needs to cut off craving.
2. To cut off craving, one develops vipassana - discerning impermanent, non-self, etc, so that any arisen feeling won't cause any attachment which in turn causes craving.

With metta.
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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:30 am

Greetings Oceanfloor,

What you have presented is not incorrect, but I feel it's worth "kicking the tyres" to see if it holds up alright and to check that your understanding is right.

In my opinion a better two point summary would be...

- The Buddha taught that the Noble Eightfold Path is the way to nibbana.
- Application of the Mahasi vipassana technique supports the pursuit of the Noble Eightfold Path.

Do not take any technique as a path, in-and-of-itself, independent of the Noble Eightfold Path, as a road to nibbana.

On that proviso, I believe what you have put forward is correct.

Metta,
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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby Ben » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:44 am

Greetings Sean,

I suggest that you consult with Bhikkhu Pesala or Mikenz66, members here on DW, on the teachings of Mahasi Sayadaw.
kind regards,

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Postby retrofuturist » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:57 am

:goodpost:

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:31 am

Hi Oceanfloor,

I'm sure Bhikkhu Pesala would be happy to answer you questions, but from previous conversations I understand that unless they have some very specifically personal question, he would rather people posted questions on the forum. Many people here have a practice that is based on Mahasi Sayadaw's approach. See this thread for a recent example: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17756

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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:05 am

Start by reading , then . When you're ready for more detail, study In This Very Life (see my forum signature), slowly and thoroughly.

Any of the other Books by Mahāsī Sayādaw may be helpful, but it's too much for a beginner to take it all in.

Study and practice should go hand in hand. Chanmyay Sayādaw's is also very helpful practical guidance for meditators.
• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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Postby Sam Vara » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:37 pm

Hi Mike and everyone,

Is there such a thing as a directory of approved centres which teach retreats in the Mahasi style? I am based in the UK and have located one by just Googling it, and was wondering if anyone had any hints as to the best way of locating one.

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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

Postby mikenz66 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:30 pm

Hi Sam,

I know that there are some centres that advertise specific affiliations, but I have no experience of those. Perhaps someone else can comment.

Many monasteries in Thailand (including the one that our local Wat is a branch of) and elsewhere teach the Mahasi approach. The primary teachers I've had here have spent time in various Burmese and other Mahasi-oriented centres. However, they have no specific affiliation. A number of Western lay teachers (such as Joseph Goldstein, Steve Armstrong, Patrick Kearney, to mention a few whose talks I've listened to on the Internet) have a strong basis in this approach.

I'm ambivalent about "approved" styles. There are some organisations that are very organised in terms of a particular style, such as the Goenka centres. Others, such as the Ajahn Chah group of affiliated monasteries, teach a wide variety of styles that seems to depend on the particular background of the teachers. Personally, I'm more interested in access to competent teachers of the Buddha-Dhamma, than purity in some particular modern approach. However, I would always recommend sticking with a particular approach for quite some time (months at least), not randomly switching.

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Re: On Mahasi Sayadaw's teaching

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• • • • (Upasampadā: 24th June, 1979)

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