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Going vegan!

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Mojo
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Going vegan!

Postby Mojo » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:35 am

I had my physical today. My weight was 299 pounds, down 26 since the beginning of March and down 76 since April 2011 when I hit my personal high of 375. My cholesterol is at 190, less than the 200 limit for healthy range. My triglycerides are in good order. So I told my doctor I wanted to go from ovo-lacto vegetarian to vegan, and that I wanted to quit taking the fish oil supplements that he originally wanted me to take because of my formerly bad cholesterol. He agreed it would be fine for me. So as soon as I'm done with the eggs I currently have in the fridge, I'll be vegan...at least at home. When I'm away from home, I may need to be a bit more open...but will take the vegan options as long as they are available.

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:58 am

Hi Mojo,
299lb = 135kg, which if you don't mind me saying so, seems high.
I am glad you are engaged in a lifestyle change for your health and wellbeing.
Are you engaged in regular intense exercise?
Do you utilize calorie tracking applications? If you are looking at reducing your weight then I can recommend both.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Mojo » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:15 am

Its very high...but getting better. My blood chemistry is good. I follow the South Beach Diet, which adapts quite well to a vegetarian lifestyle. My exercise right now is walking. I was up to running 3 miles straight a little more than a year ago plus weights, plus yoga... I got burnt out and stopped exercising altogether. For now I'm just walking. My job has me on my feet 8 hours a day as a nursing aide. This is enough for me right now. My doc said he's cool with it too considering my progress otherwise.

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:33 am

Great to hear it, Mojo.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Coyote » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:21 am

I was vegan for some years. It is a good way to cut calories as you are restricted from many rich and calorie dense foods that often make up an unhealthy diet. Make sure you get enough iron, calcium and B vitamins, and that you don't compensate for the lack of animal foods by eating fatty junk food.
Also get plenty of sun for that vitamin D :thumbsup:

If you are trying to lose weight, some way of tracking a calorie deficit is a good idea.

Good luck
"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of miserliness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared."
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Re: Going vegan!

Postby BlackBird » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:05 am

May I suggest flax seed oil as an alternative to fish oil? It is also rich in omega 3s and has some DHA or whatever it is that gives you the goodness.
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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:10 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Going vegan!

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby BlackBird » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:19 pm

You're making me hungry ;)
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Re: Going vegan!

Postby marc108 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:05 pm

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Mojo » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:56 pm

I picked up some ground flaxseed and was planning on adding some to my daily oatmeal. Would that not be as good as cooking with dha flaxseed oil? I have been buying Equate One Daily Men's Health, which is a Walmart generic for One A Day.

http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Men ... t/10324918

It apparently has animal based gelatin in it...

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Ben » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:49 pm

Personally, I wouldn't bother with omega-3 oils.
Recent research conducted on people with cardiovascular risk factors indicate omega 3 oils have no health benefits.
(N Engl J Med 2013; 368:1800-1808May 9, 2013DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1205409).

My advice is to do your own research and listen to your doctor.
Be wary of the marketing of a lot of 'natural' products and 'bro-science'. In my opinion, if a health claim is not supported with evidence that has been published in a respected peer-reviewed journal then its probably bogus.

I am in a similar situation to yourself, Mojo, and my focus is on sustainable lifestyle change that incorporates a balanced calorie-controlled diet and regular high-intensity exercise with the aid of myfitnesspal.com and a heart rate monitor. I get all my nutrients from my food and I don't take any supplements. As a vegan you may want to boost your b12, but that is a discussion you should have with your doctor. You may just find you might be getting enough b12 in your diet.
All the best,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby marc108 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:02 am

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Ben » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:59 am

Thanks Marc for your response.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby BlackBird » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:55 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby Mojo » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:12 am

Well, I just made some steel cut oats cooked with almond milk. I added some frozen blueberries at the end with a couple spoons of flaxseed and a bit of salt and Splenda. It was fantastic. I eat oatmeal every day so this should be a great way to get my ALA.

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby BlackBird » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:20 am

Well very good Mojo.

I am glad my suggestion of flax seed has culminated in a positive outcome. Although I had never considered simply putting the oil on foods, but rather gel caps so as to avoid what I would have presumed to be a less than delectable taste. How does it taste, besides oiley?
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Re: Going vegan!

Postby manas » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:24 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Going vegan!

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Re: Going vegan!

Postby BlackBird » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:37 am

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -


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