Monkey picks up poop, on first throw hits target on second throw missed target, still has poop on his hand, on realising slaps his own face!
in other words make sure you defend truth with nothing other than truth otherwise you are doing nothing other than distorting truth.
you both (tilt and clw) have shared personal views and opinions which are not necesarilly true in defence of your side! so how is that not distorting the truth?
or is truth personal opinions about a theories effect with no actual proof? or what some supposed intelectuals say?
Ehipassiko see for yourself
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.