Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

Postby Mr Man » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:22 am

Sometimes we make act violently or even feel it is appropriate to act violently. We may even think that we a doing it for the greater good but what we can never do is use the Buddha to justify or give legitimacy to our actions.

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

Postby pilgrim » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:32 am

Regardless of our opinions of Wirathu, it appears that he has not called for violence. Inciting others to kill is a parajika and in conservative Burma, many Buddhists would be aware of that. It seems that Wirathu's crime is that he has not done enough to call for a stop in the violence committed by others who are in sympathy to his objectives.

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

Postby Vern Stevens » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:26 am

We learn from history that people will choose to do whatever they want, including violence, and structure their ideology around it for justification. From my limited knowledge, Buddhism is about the least plausible philosophy for justifying the use of violence.

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

Postby Ajatashatru » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:55 pm

As far as I am concerned, Buddhism belonging to the Dharma traditions is not static and fossilized but ever evolving. I see some posters here want a quote by Buddha that justifies violence. First question I must ask is do we really have ALL the teachings of the Buddha available. Remember Nalanda library burned for six months.

Secondly, we should read between the lines. We all know Theravada does not prohibit meat. Why is that? Is anybody that naive to think all the animals that we eat just jumped off a cliff :tongue: ? Read between the lines, Buddhism if anything is a sharp contrast to fatalistic Hinduism and Jainism. For example, Buddha actively seeked patronage of King Ajatashatru. Again, I am yet to see a non-western senior Theravada monk condemn this violence in Burma to the degree you guys have. Or perhaps the Asians are too full of superstition to grasp the Buddha's true message and need a guiding Westerner to set them straight. Why don't you preach to the Rakhine in Burma or the Chakma in Bangladesh about the Buddha's true teachings then?

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

Postby Dan74 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:52 pm

So the Rakhine=Mogul Invaders=Osama Bin Laden? Just because you are Muslim, you are the enemy, right?

So first it was the Commies, now the Muslims... When will we ever learn...?

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Re: Genocide in Burma: Monks and Perpetuation of Violence

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