Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
User avatar
Heaviside
Posts: 45
Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:53 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1001

Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

Postby Heaviside » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:12 am

I have asthma and a couple of congenital heart ailments. When I meditate, I am far too conscious of my pulse and chest flutter, as well as a raw lump in my chest I am always aware of. This makes it hard to stay mindful of the breath per-se.

Does anyone here have similar problems? Any advice?
Do the best you can with what you have to work with.

User avatar
retrofuturist
Site Admin
Posts: 14815
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:13 am

Greetings,

I'd suggest to try focusing on the nostrils as a gateway, and failing that, find a different meditation method for which your ailments will be less of an obstruction.

Metta,
Retro. :)
If you have asked me of the origination of unease, then I shall explain it to you in accordance with my understanding:
Whatever various forms of unease there are in the world, They originate founded in encumbering accumulation. (Pārāyanavagga)


Exalted in mind, just open and clearly aware, the recluse trained in the ways of the sages:
One who is such, calmed and ever mindful, He has no sorrows! -- Udana IV, 7


Dharma Wheel (Mahayana / Vajrayana forum) -- Open flower ~ Open book (blog)

User avatar
Ben
Site Admin
Posts: 16359
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 am
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1001
Location: Land of the sleeping gods
Contact:

Re: Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:39 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

I'd suggest to try focusing on the nostrils as a gateway, and failing that, find a different meditation method for which your ailments will be less of an obstruction.

Metta,
Retro. :)


Seconded.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725

Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global ReliefUNHCR
Buddhist Life Stories of Australia
e: ben.dhammawheel@gmail.com

User avatar
daverupa
Posts: 4542
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1001

Re: Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

Postby daverupa » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:43 am

There might be another way to go, as well.

Instead of tightening the focus on the nostrils in order to set aside the other distracting input, you might try blending all the input together such that, no matter what else can be detected about the body, the breathing is noted as a repetitive body-flexion encompassing all the other bodily inputs. This, then, can be the basis for the third step of anapanasati's first tetrad.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

User avatar
Heaviside
Posts: 45
Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:53 pm
Which number is larger than 1000 and less than 1002: 1001

Re: Asthma/heart problems and meditation?

Postby Heaviside » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:58 pm

Thanks. It had occurred to me to adopt the "distracting" sensations as part of the breathing, but was wondering if it would provide a focus that was tight enough.

I will give both suggestions a try.
Do the best you can with what you have to work with.


Return to “Theravada Meditation”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Mr Man, paul and 0 guests