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Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby PeDr0 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:09 pm

I read with interest in a book called 'A lion handbook, The Worlds's religions'

In a box out inside the book called 'The Buddha's Teaching' by Richard Drummond, under the title Nirvana:

The goal of life is nirvana. This is not the annihilation of the self (a Buddhist heresy). On the contrary nirvana is a transformed mode of human consciousness, also an independant reality with a dynamism of its own. It is radically other than the material world: the eternal realm, the uterly depndable, the true refuge.


I find this really resonsates with me and with my experience and just wanted to share it with the forum :-)
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby felipe » Tue May 14, 2013 1:46 pm

Beautiful :)

The topic on self and Nirvāṇa is very confusing and has been greatly modified by the media, I my self am only starting to grasp its true meaning.

Thank you for sharing.
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby PeDr0 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:11 pm

Oh Man.. how many times do I hear this doing the rounds.. ""Nirvana" literally means "blowing out" ...or "cooling down"? The blowing out /cooling down of - greed, hatred and delusion."

Nirvana, at least in sanscrit can mean any of the following and probably/possibly more:

निर्वाण nirvANa n. final liberation
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. lost
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. deceased
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. tamed
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. disappeared
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. quieted
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. set
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. immersed
निर्वन nirvana adj. being out of a wood or in the open country
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. calmed
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. immovable
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. dead
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. extinguished [ as a lamp or fire ]
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. blown or put out
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. plunged
निर्वन nirvana adj. having no wood
निर्वाण nirvANa n. vanishing
निर्वाण nirvANa n. post to which an elephant is tied
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation of attachments
निर्वाण nirvANa n. highest bliss or beatitude
निर्वाण nirvANa n. bathing of an elephant
निर्वाण nirvANa n. setting
निर्वाण nirvANa n. offering oblations
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation of passions
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation
निर्वण nirvaNa n. country without forests
निर्वाण nirvANa n. dissolution
निर्वाण nirvANa n. blowing out
निर्वाण nirvANa n. extinction
निर्वाण nirvANa n. perfect calm or repose or happiness
निर्वाण nirvANa n. extinction of the flame of life
निर्वाण nirvANa n. disappearance
निर्वाण nirvANa n. instructing in sciences
निर्वाण nirvANa n. death or final emancipation from matter and re-union with the Supreme Spirit
निर्वन nirvana n. complete pleasure
निर्वाण nirvANa n. absolute extinction or annihilation of individual existence or of all desires and passions

I particulalay like the ones I have highlighted!

In my opinion it has nothing to do with the anihalation of self.

I wish somebody would tell wikipedia that! I think the thought that you just disapear depresses a lot of people, even some monks! (I think possibly) I don't believe 'you' do just simply disapaear just the ilusiuon that seperates 'you' from other
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby chownah » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:58 am

PeDrO,
I don't believe that "you" just simply disappear either, after all how can something which does not exist disappear?!!!
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby PeDr0 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:19 am

It definately does exist.. there's just nothing there..

(Apart from pure unrestrained conciousness of course..) :)
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:40 am

Don't forget that each of the terms is in this context: The destruction of greed, hatred, and delusion is Nibbana; the destruction of greed, hatred and delusion is tamed, the destruction of greed, hatred, and delusion is ....

PeDr0 wrote:Oh Man.. how many times do I hear this doing the rounds.. ""Nirvana" literally means "blowing out" ...or "cooling down"? The blowing out /cooling down of - greed, hatred and delusion."

Nirvana, at least in sanscrit can mean any of the following and probably/possibly more:

निर्वाण nirvANa n. final liberation
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. lost
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. deceased
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. tamed
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. disappeared
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. quieted
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. set
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. immersed
निर्वन nirvana adj. being out of a wood or in the open country
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. calmed
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. immovable
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. dead
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. extinguished [ as a lamp or fire ]
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. blown or put out
निर्वाण nirvANa adj. plunged
निर्वन nirvana adj. having no wood
निर्वाण nirvANa n. vanishing
निर्वाण nirvANa n. post to which an elephant is tied
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation of attachments
निर्वाण nirvANa n. highest bliss or beatitude
निर्वाण nirvANa n. bathing of an elephant
निर्वाण nirvANa n. setting
निर्वाण nirvANa n. offering oblations
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation of passions
निर्वाण nirvANa n. cessation
निर्वण nirvaNa n. country without forests
निर्वाण nirvANa n. dissolution
निर्वाण nirvANa n. blowing out
निर्वाण nirvANa n. extinction
निर्वाण nirvANa n. perfect calm or repose or happiness
निर्वाण nirvANa n. extinction of the flame of life
निर्वाण nirvANa n. disappearance
निर्वाण nirvANa n. instructing in sciences
निर्वाण nirvANa n. death or final emancipation from matter and re-union with the Supreme Spirit
निर्वन nirvana n. complete pleasure
निर्वाण nirvANa n. absolute extinction or annihilation of individual existence or of all desires and passions

I particulalay like the ones I have highlighted!

In my opinion it has nothing to do with the anihalation of self.

I wish somebody would tell wikipedia that! I think the thought that you just disapear depresses a lot of people, even some monks! (I think possibly) I don't believe 'you' do just simply disapaear just the ilusiuon that seperates 'you' from other
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby PeDr0 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:57 am

I hate the wikepedia definition of the word:

"The word literally means "blown out" (as in a candle) and refers, in the Buddhist context, to the imperturbable stillness of mind after the fires of desire, aversion, and delusion have been finally extinguished."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana

Again this infers anhilation of self..written by someone who lacks insight in my opinion..
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby Mindstar » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:05 am

Hi Pedro,
Maybe it is the best for you to just practice for the attainment of jhanas and to delight in jhanic bliss rather than thinking too much about nirvana right now. Once you are at a point of experince where you have gained some insights you are still able to revaluate your views if necessary.
Wherever he goes, there he is unafraid.. Wherever he sleeps, there he is unalarmed!
The nights and days does neither touch nor burn him. He sees nothing in this world
that is to be kept or lost.. Therefore his mind dwells in goodwill and gentle kindness
towards all beings until he falls asleep.
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Re: Nirvāṇa, nibbāna, निर्वाण or निब्बान

Postby PeDr0 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:05 am

Mindstar wrote:Hi Pedro,
Maybe it is the best for you to just practice for the attainment of jhanas and to delight in jhanic bliss rather than thinking too much about nirvana right now. Once you are at a point of experince where you have gained some insights you are still able to revaluate your views if necessary.


I have gained some insight, at least I pretty sure I have :smile:
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