the great rebirth debate

[tiltbillings]

Buddha isn't found in books

The suttas are not just "books."

Reading the words wont give you meaning . . .

Which is why the suttas are more than just "books." I should not think that that would need to be spelled out.

[tiltbillings]

The words dont matter, as long as we dont cling to them

Is this belief something you hold near and dear?

[Ceisiwr]

The words dont matter, as long as we dont cling to them

Is this belief something you hold near and dear?

Not really

Is your belief in rebirth?

[tiltbillings]

The words dont matter, as long as we dont cling to them

Is this belief something you hold near and dear?

Not really

So, you can take it or leave it.

Is your belief in rebirth?

I have not said that I believe in rebirth. My point here in this thread has been what you see eloquently stated:

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

[Ceisiwr]

Really :/ we get it tilt lol

I was even the one who said it, you don't need to keep posting it


We aren't even discussing that anymore really

But if you must ...

[tiltbillings]

Really :/ we get it tilt lol

I was even the one who said it, you don't need to keep posting it


We aren't even discussing that anymore really

But if you must ...

I just answered your points.

[Ceisiwr]

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

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I'm not preaching to anyone, so yeah they can take it or leave it


I will say though you do seem to relish in what I posted earlier

"rebirth is in the suttas"

Kinda worrying how often you keep posting it


On a side note it's not really anything new, I said the same thing before


Can I ask why you keep re-posting it? It does come across as if your relish in it :/

[Ceisiwr]

Which is why the suttas are more than just "books." I should not think that that would need to be spelled out.

I didn't say "just"

That's your notions being layered on my post

[tiltbillings]

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

I will say though you do seem to relish in what I posted earlier

"rebirth is in the suttas"

It is a good thing to see you clearly, without equivocation stating what is obvious about the suttas, especially after the protracted denials of earlier debates from you in this thread. It is a good thing.

[Ceisiwr]

Really :/ we get it tilt lol

I was even the one who said it, you don't need to keep posting it


We aren't even discussing that anymore really

But if you must ...

I just answered your points.

No you keep posting the same quote of mine, over and over, in bold red letters as if it's suppose to signify something (otherwise why post it again and again?)

I was the one who said it, it's something I have said before and, furthermore, it's no longer relevant to the topic at hand

[Ceisiwr]

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

I will say though you do seem to relish in what I posted earlier

"rebirth is in the suttas"

It is a good thing to see you clearly, without equivocation stating what is obvious about the suttas, especially after the protracted denials of earlier debates from you in this thread. It is a good thing.

The you never really understood my point

[tiltbillings]

The you never really understood my point

You can tell yourself that, if you wish. But it is interesting to see this coming someone who keeps talking about my "belief in rebirth" when I never claimed such. Now, I have not read everything you have written, but I did read carefully what you wrote when we debated in this thread sometime ago. At that time you would not have admitted, so it seemed, that the suttas taught a literal rebirth. But whether I understood you or not:

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

this is the only point I wanted stated clearly, without equivocation. And there we have it.

[Ceisiwr]

The you never really understood my point

You can tell yourself that, if you wish. But it is interesting to see this coming someone who keeps talking about my "belief in rebirth" when I never claimed such. Now, I have not read everything you have written, but I did read carefully what you wrote when we debated in this thread sometime ago. At that time you would not have admitted, so it seemed, that the suttas taught a literal rebirth. But whether I understood you or not:

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

this is the only point I wanted stated clearly, without equivocation. And there we have it.

I hardly "kept mentioning it", what was it ... Twice?

Anyways this debate is getting more and more pointless so im willing to leave it at that xx

[tiltbillings]

The you never really understood my point

You can tell yourself that, if you wish. But it is interesting to see this coming someone who keeps talking about my "belief in rebirth" when I never claimed such. Now, I have not read everything you have written, but I did read carefully what you wrote when we debated in this thread sometime ago. At that time you would not have admitted, so it seemed, that the suttas taught a literal rebirth. But whether I understood you or not:

• So ok yeah, there is literal rebirth in the Suttas

this is the only point I wanted stated clearly, without equivocation. And there we have it.

I hardly "kept mentioning it", what was it ... Twice?

Since I never claimed to believe in rebirth, why would you bring up my "belief in rebirth' at all?

Anyways this debate is getting more and more pointless so im willing to leave it at that

As I said, in this exchanges, pages of it now, the only point I wanted made was neatly made by you. Thanks.

[Ceisiwr]

Since I never claimed to believe in rebirth, why would you bring up my "belief in rebirth' at all?

I think we have a perception of each other, but at opposite ends

I never claimed to disbelieve rebirth, but you seem to think I do

And you never claimed to believe it, but you seem to

I suspect we are probably in more agreement than it seems

As I said, in this exchanges, pages of it now, the only point I wanted made was neatly made by you. Thanks.

No problem x