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Myanmar again, but from the other end. - Dhamma Wheel

Myanmar again, but from the other end.

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Myanmar again, but from the other end.

Postby pilgrim » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:50 am

There is a locked thread where we mostly berated ourselves as Buddhists for the violence in Myanmar. But i'd like to look at it from a different perspective. What if the threat to Buddhist culture in Asia is real. What do we do? Are pacificism and extinction the only possible alternatives?
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Postby lyndon taylor » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:44 am

If you want to talk about a Muslim threat to Buddhists in Bangaladesh or even India, you might have some point, But Muslim threat in Myamyar is just not credible, they have a police force, they have a military, both Buddhist. I don't see the threat, sorry But your arguement is just why the other thread was shut down, intolerance rared its ugly head.......
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Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:04 am

If there's one thing I cannot stand it's intolerance. :hug:

The author's article is Jewish, perhaps that makes him more sensitive to the threat posed by Muslims?

IMO intolerance and racism pose a far greater threat to Buddhism in Burma than do Muslims, whether they be long-term residents of Burma like the Rohinga, or the illegal immigrants who crossed the border from Bangladesh.
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Postby Dan74 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:06 pm

I think we have a two-pronged movement to radicalise Muslims now. One is from the side of the fundamentalists, like bin Laden, the other is from the Westerners who paint them all with the same broad brush and through this prejudice and biased foreign policy provide plenty of ammunition to the hate-preachers.
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Postby pilgrim » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:38 pm

There is no dispute that the mob attack is a result of intolerance. But Myanmar has 135 linguistic groups and communities of Hindus and Christians far larger than the Muslims. Yet it is just this one community that breaks the tolerance of the Burmese. To dismiss the conflict simply as the result of intolerance seems too simplistic and does not offer solutions to the problem. What alternative would you suggest other than point at the intolerance of the Burmese?

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Postby pilgrim » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:46 pm

No one is advocating that Buddhists kill. I'll be meeting a group of people soon regarding the Time Magazine article and the question will arise on how Buddhists should react in situations where they perceive a threat to their community and culture. I was hopeful of offering something more useful than be tolerant and just suck it up. But, yea...the mods can close this thread too.
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Postby dagon » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:49 pm

Burma is a federation of 5 states it has since been called a union. For most of the last 50 years it has been held together by violence and the gun. The turning point (IMHO) was when the monks publicly walked past the government and refused to accept Dana from them in repudiation of the government’s actions.

There are those who wish to see the state remain as one, there are those who want independence for their own areas, and there are those who will use violence to get what they want. The country need reconciliation – compassion and loving kindness would be a good starting point. The country needs leaders who believe in the Dhamma and act accordingly. The real enemy is within as is the case will all of us who have not developed sufficient enlightenment.

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Postby dagon » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:51 pm

This article may be of interest to those who actually want to try and understand the situation in Burma

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... buses.html

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