Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Try to become a Blue Lotus Recluse.
Who knows what you can achieve if you never take up the challenge?
Thanks, it is a good doctrine.
Yes!...go for it...mindfully...
lotus flower wrote:Have i got an opportunity to become a bhikkhuni?
if i never try it, i will don't know can i become a bhikkhuni or can't...! thanks the encouraging words.
manas wrote: lotus flower wrote:
i often think about bisexuality isn't naturally and isn't positive mind energy,
and i think about bisexuality is a perverse thing and i want to lose it with help of my meditations and contemplations. but it isn't simply.
I hope you are not feeling bad about having bisexual orientation. Being gay or bisexual is not
perverse, any more than being heterosexual is perverse. It's all the same thing: just sexual desire.
I don't think that the Dhamma can make you lose your bisexuality, to then become heterosexual, any more than Christianity or any other religion can. The Dhamma can, in time, make you desireless for any kind of sex at all
, but that goes for homosexuals and heterosexuals as well; the whole lot of us are suffering from the same thing: sexual desire.
I just wanted to clarify that, because I got the impression you felt ashamed about being bisexual. You do not need to, there's nothing to be ashamed of. Sexual desire, whether for male or female or both, is ultimately the same thing. It's all simply sexual desire
. One kind is not worse than the other. They all lead to dukkha, so they are all 'equally unwholesome'.
My personal opinion here, but I would gently advise you to first accept yourself as you are, as having bisexual orientation, and stop feeling bad about that, rather than trying to rush off and stamp out all sexual feelings, out of a sense of shame. If you want to transcend all sexual feelings, out of metta
for yourself (because you can see that all sexual feelings lead towards stress), then fine; but I don't
advise doing it out of shame.
all sexual desire are dukkha, it's true. and this is the reason why we practice asubha meditations and thinking about death, body's death. i don't be ashamed but i can't fully accept it still, and i think it is a trouble because i would like become a bhikkhuni. but maybe my bisexuality will be the reason which will close my ordination way. it is a very difficult matter.
many peoples don't like lesbians and bisexuals. they look us like a leper peoples.
you are very kind, but i can deep in this matter.
i think heterosexuality is the only naturally spiritual energy because i was read some spiritual and buddhist thoughts about this theme. if anybody does oral sex, this people makes bad karma. i read it in a buddhist book.
i think homosexuality, bisexuality are also bad karma like sado maso or pedophilia or similar things. some buddhist teacher says homo or bisexuality is a bad karma. (instance Ole Lama, i know he is a vajrayana teacher but he is a wise man but don't wiser like theravada teachers, i think.)
my ex teacher (he finished his teaching but he taught theravada) said i can LOSE my bisexuality if i often meditate about these things are bad karma and if i would have sex with women it would push me far from the Dhamma, Buddha, Sangha, Nibbana. he was a great teacher and he reached very high meditation levels and more than these levels....
Jhana4 wrote:There are all sorts of places where homosexuals and bisexuals are not allowed, but they are there anyway. They are hanging around us in places, every day, where we are bathing, getting dressed, etc. Yet, we don't see news articles like "bisexual/gay person finally loses their control and gets inappropriate in a locker room". It makes you take a different perspective on celibacy, homosexuals and bisexuals, doesn't it?