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I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:09 pm

Dear forum members,

I have a lot of sleppy mornings. I usually wake up at 5 or 6 o'clock. sometimes 6:30. i woke up after 10-15 minutes i sit and start meditate.
but I often can't meditate if i don't drink a few coffee. i don't know why. my coffee isn't very strong and i drink only a few. and don't drink everyday. when i don't drink coffee i can't meditate always, only i can sometimes. or a little more than sometimes.
i had a long time (almost a year) when i didn't drank coffee. in that time i could meditate without coffee. but in the present i often can't meditate if i don't drink a few coffee. i wouldn't drink coffee. i wouldn't like if i would addict the coffee again...
i can meditate at mornings and late afternoons because i usually eat at 11:00 or 12:00 and after it i'm usually sleepy a little.
how can i always become awake without coffee? do you know a technique? Yoga? or anything?
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Jhana4 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:14 pm

The best way to become awake without coffee is to reduce your coffee intake.

You care having problems because your body has become used to coffee and it needs it to wake up.

Begin drinking less coffee until you get down to a single cup a day, then start drinking a cup of green tea instead. Once you reach that point, taking a shower and eating first can help make a morning meditation more productive.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:44 pm

Jhana4 wrote:The best way to become awake without coffee is to reduce your coffee intake.

You care having problems because your body has become used to coffee and it needs it to wake up.

Begin drinking less coffee until you get down to a single cup a day, then start drinking a cup of green tea instead. Once you reach that point, taking a shower and eating first can help make a morning meditation more productive.


green tea? it looks like a good idea. :twothumbsup: thanks! i will try it.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby mirco » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:33 am

What about mate (tea) ? :)
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:45 am

You could try going to bed earlier.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Jhana4 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:02 pm

Good suggestion, but if someone has come to be dependent on a lot of caffiene, they might be able to get up, but their mind will not be clear until they get some. I have more than a few friends who are smug about their quart a day coffee habits.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Coyote » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:03 pm

I found that my caffeine consumption was causing a lot of problems relating to sleepiness and mood. It may be that you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms due to a high tolerance to caffeine. You might want to try cutting out all caffeine - not just coffee but tea, fizzy drinks and perhaps even chocolate (although I didn't give this up). This resets your caffeine tolerance levels after a few weeks and you can then reintroduce lower amounts of caffeine slowly, so as to keep tolerance + withdrawal symptoms low. Even light withdrawal symptoms are an unpleasant experience, so you could always slowly reduce instead of going cold turkey.

It could be that you need to get more sleep, however. It might also be the sloth and torpor hindrance/boredom.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:09 pm

Ben wrote:You could try going to bed earlier.
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Dear Ben, maybe it is a good idea. I often go to bed at late times 23:30 or 00:30 but sometimes 22:30. i will try your advice soon.

Coyote wrote:
It could be that you need to get more sleep, however. It might also be the sloth and torpor hindrance/boredom.


more sleep? i slept many times 8 hour almost every day but it wasn't a good way because it didn't help to me. often I NEEDED SLEEP 9 HOURS without coffee and when i slept 9 hours i could meditate! it is a fun! :rolleye: i haven't enough time to sleep 9 hours everyday...
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Coyote » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:21 pm

I have heard, though I don't know the science behind this, that sleeping for too long (9-11 hours) can actually make you tired and is not good for you. Try 7/7.5 hours and see how your body responds.
Also on the topic of sleep, Ben's recommendation is good as getting to bed early and waking up early is better for you than staying in late and waking up late. Caffeine messes up your sleep patters (as does artificial light) and it may be that you are crashing when you come off the caffeine.
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Postby lotus flower » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:16 pm

Coyote wrote:I have heard, though I don't know the science behind this, that sleeping for too long (9-11 hours) can actually make you tired and is not good for you. Try 7/7.5 hours and see how your body responds.
Also on the topic of sleep, Ben's recommendation is good as getting to bed early and waking up early is better for you than staying in late and waking up late. Caffeine messes up your sleep patters (as does artificial light) and it may be that you are crashing when you come off the caffeine.


ok i try it. thank you everybody! :hug: :jumping: maybe it will be the good way. and go to bed earlier, get up earlier.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:25 pm

and i will practice yoga. :)
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:50 pm

Sleep need varies from person to person. Some people need as much as nine hours sleep to feel rested. Allergies can also make you feel tired all the time and especially in the morning, along with sore joints.

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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby mirco » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:08 pm

lotus flower wrote:how can i always become awake without coffee? do you know a technique? Yoga? or anything?


Yoga is great.

Without going into details:

A cup of coffee in the morning can be replaced by a Sun Salutation.

I do so. My body thanks me.


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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Arali » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:08 pm

Are you eating well? Are you male or female?
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:11 pm

mirco wrote:
lotus flower wrote:how can i always become awake without coffee? do you know a technique? Yoga? or anything?


Yoga is great.

Without going into details:

A cup of coffee in the morning can be replaced by a Sun Salutation.

I do so. My body thanks me.


Regards,
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Dear Micro! you have the truth. Surya Namaskara is good, i heard about it from an other forum also. i will try it soon.

Arali wrote:Are you eating well? Are you male or female?


Dear Arali!
Yes i think my eating is OK. I usually eat vegetables and sweets. sometimes fruits. but i eat meals seldom.
and i eat twice a day because i have to learn 4 or 5 hours every day. i don't eat a lot of food, only what i need.
I'm female.
i usually have move a little and walk a few. i'm too lazy! :) maybe it is a problem.
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Ajisai » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:18 pm

Advice from my personal experience : Check if you are not lacking iron and magnesium in your blood. Iron gives you energy, and magnesium helps you sleeping deeper, so when you wake up you feel better.
Females especially have a tendancy to lack of iron. You can try to eat more food providing iron.

I heard eating an apple is a better way to wake up than drinking coffee. It's also healthier !
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Postby mirco » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:26 pm

Ajisai wrote:Advice from my personal experience : Check if you are not lacking iron and magnesium in your blood. Iron gives you energy, and magnesium helps you sleeping deeper, so when you wake up you feel better. Females especially have a tendancy to lack of iron. You can try to eat more food providing iron. I heard eating an apple is a better way to wake up than drinking coffee. It's also healthier !

Good food always is important. Uh, and better don't use any dietary supplement (vitamin pills etc.), that ain't wholesome.

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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby lotus flower » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:45 pm

mirco wrote:
Ajisai wrote:Advice from my personal experience : Check if you are not lacking iron and magnesium in your blood. Iron gives you energy, and magnesium helps you sleeping deeper, so when you wake up you feel better. Females especially have a tendancy to lack of iron. You can try to eat more food providing iron. I heard eating an apple is a better way to wake up than drinking coffee. It's also healthier !

Good food always is important. Uh, and better don't use any dietary supplement (vitamin pills etc.), that ain't wholesome.

:namaste:


Dear Ajisai!
ok, i try to eat such foods.... it is a good advice. :thumbsup:

Dear Mirco!
"that ain't wholesome" - WHY? i took a many vitamins and multivitamin pills sometime
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby Spiny Norman » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:00 pm

lotus flower wrote:...but I often can't meditate if i don't drink a few coffee.


Same here, but I don't see what's so awful about a couple of cups of coffee in the morning. ;)
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Re: I'm often sleepy! What i doing?

Postby mirco » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:20 pm

Dear Lotus,
lotus flower wrote:Dear Mirco!
"that ain't wholesome" - WHY? i took a many vitamins and multivitamin pills sometime

Artificial chemicals mixed in factories vs. vegetables, flowers, herbs and fruits? With pills all you get is expensive urine.

In plants more than only vitamins to be found. They contain bioactive ingredients they need for their living. Have you ever seen a basket of apples with one gone bad and athe others surrounding it being fresh and not affected by the rotten one, even after quite a time? Our body is able to transform their energy for it's purpose, keeping us healthy. The benefit of natural, non-artificial food is longtime proven by science. Generating as complex and healthy foods as vegetables, fruits, herbs etc. with machines is not yet possible (ever will be?).


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