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Contemplating old age sickness and death

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Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby sundara » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:40 am

Is it good to contemplate old age sickness and death.

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby rowyourboat » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:56 am

we are intoxicated with youth, intoxicated with health, intoxicated with wealth- we don't take into account that old age, sickness and death is inevitable. the reason to think these is not to become depressed, rather to be in line with the truth -it motivates us to practice, it makes us aware that we have little time here on earth- gives us a reason to be nice to others as we are all in the same boat, and not for long.

It takes courage to carry out buddhist practices - to face the truth -to be wise. Samsara is all about running away from the truth- wanting to look at only the pleasant, running away from the unpleasant. If we are not bold enough to face uncomfortable truths then the heart of buddhism isn't for you.
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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby Individual » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:24 am

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby cooran » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:40 am

.... there is life itself which teaches if you are able to see and hear ...

Just sent my Mum to hospital in an ambulance ... coughing blood, and breathless.

Please remember her with Metta .... she is very frightened, and pleading to go home .... and
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Postby Individual » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:42 am

The best things in life aren't things.


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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby Ben » Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:51 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby pink_trike » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:48 am

I agree with Chris, life and one's bathroom mirror is the very best teacher when it comes to old age, sickness, and death - if we're awake to these experiences.

Spitting blood
Clears up reality
And dream alike

- Sunao, Zen monk. Died 1926

Late this last Sunday, I had a major heart attack. For about 45 minutes I was a blink from death. Paramedics came and rushed me to hospital, threw me on a stainless steel table in an icy cold room, poured liquid anesthesia on the groin, cut a hole into the artery, moved a cable up the artery to the heart, dislodged the blockage, inserted a NASA quality tiny sewer pipe in the vein, removed the cable, slapped a bandage on the hole, and stuck the body in bed to recover...and then cleaned the table for the next person, and the next, and the next, and the next... The actual procedure took less than 15 minutes. Observing the massive chest pains and the intense, amazing sensations that were arising as a result of the mechanical manipulations taking place inside the heart cleared away yet another layer of confusion. Looking at my face in the mirror a day later cleared up even more confusion. Taking the 6 drugs daily clears away even more.

We don't need a teacher to contemplate aging, sickness, and death. We only need to see what's right in front of, in us, and all around us. Point at anything that isn't aging and degenerating. At any age, if we look behind our deluded self-cherishing of youth and our veneration of regeneration, we see our denied but nevertheless active shadow...aging and degeneration. We have a choice in every single moment - recognize that each inhale may be the last...or delude ourselves with constant reaching and becoming. This choice is our birth right. Choose carefully. :tongue:
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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby rowyourboat » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:39 pm

Best wishes to Chri's mom. Hope she recovers soon. with metta.
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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:56 pm

Chris,

Hope your mum is okay. May you, your mother, and other family members be well.

Pink,

Is that your heart attack you are describing? If so, ouch! Hope you are okay now.

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:59 pm

The sun just rose over here on the West coast of the U.S. Everyday is another day closer to death.

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby cooran » Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:59 am

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Postby pink_trike » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:03 am

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby pink_trike » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:23 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Re: Contemplating old age sickness and death

Postby cooran » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:42 am

Hello Pink, all,

It was my day to provide food Dana for the two monks at Dhammagiri. I asked them to dedicate the merits to my mother, and Bhante Dhammasiha had heard about my upcoming experience on this coming Thursday. That is also the Uposatha Day in our Tradition and he said that he and Bhante Paramito will chant the Bojjhangas while holding me in their minds.
When I told him it would be a local anasthetic and that, being the coward I am, I think I would have preferred a general anasthetic he spoke about how, even if an experience is unpleasant, it is much better for a practitioner to be awake and mindful while it happens. I can see his point and will try to keep the Dhamma in mind at the time.

Glad of your advice Pink.

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---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---


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