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Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby danieLion » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:04 am

I agree with chownah.

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby danieLion » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:31 am

Hi all,
Please note that this link to my blog is currently not working as I've reverted the document to draft form for purposes of revision after reflecting on the comments made in this topic.
http://inthelion.blogspot.com/2013/09/t ... sm-12.html
Kindly,
dL

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby danieLion » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:21 pm

Blog back up: http://inthelion.blogspot.com/2013/09/t ... sm-12.html

I was being conflict avoidant; plus, I can always revise it later.
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dL

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby m0rl0ck » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:03 pm

“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby Viscid » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:22 pm

But can't it be said that someone who is submitting themselves to a 'higher power' is, in actuality, expressing self-control-- albeit using a new, radical psychological strategy to do so? They are necessarily convincing themselves that the agency responsible for their addiction (their 'self') is no longer in control, and that some greater entity (which in actuality is still their self, however it is now viewed unburdened by its historical poor decisions) is going to guide them towards sobriety. It's an effective, pragmatic self-delusion which can still be said to be the product of reason and self-control.
"What holds attention determines action." - William James

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby mirco » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:37 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby danieLion » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:19 pm

Hi all,
by Michael R. Edelstein, Ph.D.
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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

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“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Problems with "9 Essays: Buddhism & The 12 Steps"

Postby mirco » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:34 pm



@ m0rl0ck:

:rofl:

"Three Minute Therapy".

Maybe it takes three minutes to get the wallet out of the pocket to cure the author's chronically being broke.
"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -


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