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Goenka retreats

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Goenka retreats

Postby Nibbida » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:20 am

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Ben » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:21 am

Hi Nibbida

SN Goenka is my teacher and I can tell you that there is not, and there has never been, any truth in that statement.
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Nibbida » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:27 am

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:51 am

Hi Ben, Nibbida,

As Ben says, you can come and go to the 10 day retreats (I've only been on one - it was good - well organised, etc...). However, according to the http://www.dhamma.org web site if you want to do one of the advanced retreats you have to be committed to the technique that Goenaka teaches. Which seems reasonable. Perhaps that's where your friend is getting mixed up.

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby rowyourboat » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:55 am

Hi Ben,

I have heard (second hand sources) that after the first goenka retreat the yogi asked to make a formal commitment to the practice or not. Do you know if this is true?

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Ben » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:10 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby rowyourboat » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:51 am

Thanks Ben
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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Pannapetar » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:04 am

Has anyone done a 10-days Goenka retreat? I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Ben » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:24 am

Hi Thomas

Yes, I've sat about 23 ten-day courses, some long courses and numerous other shorter courses for 'old students'. I've also served a number of courses as well. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. There are also a few other DW members who have done a course.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Pannapetar » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:17 am

Yes, I have a number of questions.

1. As far as I know, Goenka retreats are organised and conducted by senior students. I understand that the meditation teachers are also former students. Is there are formal selection process to appoint meditation teachers? What are the criteria?

2. I have heard the retreats have mandatory daily student-teacher interviews. What is the purpose of these interviews?

3. The printed rules of conduct seem a little strict - perhaps even harsh. While much of it is identical to what one finds in a typical Thai monastery setting, it is expected that students comply with the teacher's instructions and there seems to be very little freedom. What if -for example- the teacher insists that you sit in Burmese or Lotus posture if you prefer another posture? What if your body requires stretching excercises after a long session?

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Re: Goenka retreats

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Ben » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:57 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Pannapetar » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:33 pm

Thank you Mike and Ben,

It is always good to get first-hand information from someone who is very experienced with a subject. It's probably true that these strict rules, such as noble silence, are conducive to the whole exercise. That was my experience as well in other retreats. The great thing about the Goenka retreats is that they are free and thus enable many people to join and learn Vipassana.

Cheers, Thomas

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Re: Goenka retreats

Postby Sanghamitta » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:15 pm

Just to reinforce what is being said Thomas, I did a 10 day-er in England, and was recovering from a torn knee tendon. Everyone bent over backwards to be accomodating about it and to make sure that I was physically comfortable..


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