Hello all,
Having asked Dr. google about recent scientific studies on eggs, I got these results:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=scien ... ent=safari
Seems the danger is receding?
With metta,
Chris
The truth about egg yolks?
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Re: The truth about egg yolks?
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the update.
Kindly,
dL
Thanks for the update.
Kindly,
dL
Re: The truth about egg yolks?
Dear Ben,
Out of pure interest, I'd like to kow what the "significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption" may be. Can you help me?
Kind Regards,
Mirco
I don't eat much eggs, like 10-15 per year. But that's only by feeling, not because of knowledge.Ben wrote:However, there are significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption.
Out of pure interest, I'd like to kow what the "significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption" may be. Can you help me?
Kind Regards,
Mirco
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Mirco,mirco wrote:Dear Ben,I don't eat much eggs, like 10-15 per year. But that's only by feeling, not because of knowledge.Ben wrote:However, there are significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption.
Out of pure interest, I'd like to kow what the "significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption" may be. Can you help me?
Kind Regards,
Mirco
See my posts above and associated links.
kind regards,
Ben
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People should stop behaving like headless chickens — worrying about every article on the dangers of different foods, and learn to trust their own experience.
I know, that if I eat a four egg omelette, it will make be feel heavy. However, if I eat one or two eggs, as part of a balanced diet, it has no discernible detrimental effect.
Someone who is working out regularly, could surely eat two eggs every day of the week and suffer no ill effects. There again, a Vegan could surely abstain from eating eggs completely and suffer no ill-effects.
Just follow the Buddha's advice. Be mindful, don't be greedy, meditate regularly to keep the mind free from aggression and craving for delicious tastes. Observe eight precepts on two or four days a month to deepen awareness and insight.
I know, that if I eat a four egg omelette, it will make be feel heavy. However, if I eat one or two eggs, as part of a balanced diet, it has no discernible detrimental effect.
Someone who is working out regularly, could surely eat two eggs every day of the week and suffer no ill effects. There again, a Vegan could surely abstain from eating eggs completely and suffer no ill-effects.
Just follow the Buddha's advice. Be mindful, don't be greedy, meditate regularly to keep the mind free from aggression and craving for delicious tastes. Observe eight precepts on two or four days a month to deepen awareness and insight.
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With respect, Bhante, the evidence suggests otherwise.Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Someone who is working out regularly, could surely eat two eggs every day of the week and suffer no ill effects.
There is no "worrying". However, I do believe as lay-people, we should be looking after our health so as to maximise our opportunity for practice and to support those who depend on us, and minimise the risk of becoming a burden on others as the result of chronic lifestyle-related diseases.
kind regards,
Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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but great rivers flow silently.
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well, this suffering is caused by the wrong choices of the farm industry, for which we are not responsible, since they can be avoided and it is possible to raise chicken without making them suffer. And also, hens lay eggs whether they are fertilized or not, which means eggs do not necessarily contain life, and there is no breach of the first precept by eating such eggs.Ben wrote:And lets not forget about the intense suffering of chickens to produce eggs
As pointed out by various proponents of non-vegetarianism, the agro-industry kills billions of insects to ensure the crops remain in good shape, so it is not possible to imagine one can consume food that has not been produced while making animals suffer bitterly in the process. All we can do is minimize that suffering as far as it is possible and reasonable.
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mirco wrote:Out of pure interest, I'd like to kow what the "significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption" may be. Can you help me?
Interesting. For me it's hard trusting those modern science doctors.Ben wrote:See my posts above and associated links.
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mirco wrote:mirco wrote:Out of pure interest, I'd like to kow what the "significant health-related risks associated with egg consumption" may be. Can you help me?Interesting. For me it's hard trusting those modern science doctors.Ben wrote:See my posts above and associated links.
No need to follow anyone, Mirco. Just follow the evidence - or the money trail.
kind regards,
Ben
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Clearly there is, or you would not be wasting your precious time reading these articles on the "dangers" of eating eggs, and promoting the dubious claims that they are making.Ben wrote:There is no "worrying".
According to Dr Google the "evidence" is contrary to your opinion. You choose to ignore those articles that don't support your current view, and to believe the articles that do. The main problem is egos, not eggs.
Human beings have been eating eggs, fish, poultry, and meat for tens of thousands of years. There is no evidence that a moderate amount of any of these products causes serious health issues. Excess in almost anything can cause health problems. You can die from drinking too much water.
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Dubious?Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Clearly there is, or you would not be wasting your precious time reading these articles on the "dangers" of eating eggs, and promoting the dubious claims that they are making.Ben wrote:There is no "worrying".
With respect, you are not qualified to make that assessment.
In your opinion.Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:According to Dr Google the "evidence" is contrary to your opinion. You choose to ignore those articles that don't support your current view, and to believe the articles that do. The main problem is egos, not eggs.
On the contrary, there is.Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Human beings have been eating eggs, fish, poultry, and meat for tens of thousands of years. There is no evidence that a moderate amount of any of these products causes serious health issues. Excess in almost anything can cause health problems. You can die from drinking too much water.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
Compassionate Hands Foundation (Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • Buddhist Global Relief • UNHCR
e: [email protected]..
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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This nutritionist seems to say that eggs are good for you:
Kevin
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Eggs are super healthy for you.
http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html
There is no "bad cholesterol", only destroyed and oxidized LDL, a carrier of cholesterol. When LDL receptors are damaged by inflammation and toxins, the LDL cannot be absorbed, so it cycles through the blood until it become oxidized (which is quickened when LDL contains polyunsaturated fats) which turns into a foam which coats arteries with plaque.
Eating eggs, cholesterol or saturated fat does not cause plaque or heart disease. Inflammation and toxins cause LDL to be oxidized which creates plaque.
The ratio of HDL to LDL is a good biomarker, not overall raised cholesterol levels. Cholesterol does not equal HDL or LDL. HDL and LDL are lipoproteins which are carriers of cholesterol from the liver.
Eggs are like multivitamins. Dietary cholesterol is almost irrelevant and healthy when it is absorbed.
http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html
There is no "bad cholesterol", only destroyed and oxidized LDL, a carrier of cholesterol. When LDL receptors are damaged by inflammation and toxins, the LDL cannot be absorbed, so it cycles through the blood until it become oxidized (which is quickened when LDL contains polyunsaturated fats) which turns into a foam which coats arteries with plaque.
Eating eggs, cholesterol or saturated fat does not cause plaque or heart disease. Inflammation and toxins cause LDL to be oxidized which creates plaque.
The ratio of HDL to LDL is a good biomarker, not overall raised cholesterol levels. Cholesterol does not equal HDL or LDL. HDL and LDL are lipoproteins which are carriers of cholesterol from the liver.
Eggs are like multivitamins. Dietary cholesterol is almost irrelevant and healthy when it is absorbed.
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Not the first time modern industrial lifestyle messes up what is good by itself.
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The internet is full of 'research' on all types of food and they often contradict one another. Of course it depends on context. One might say eggs are healthy because they contain proteins, but if you already get enough proteins from other sources that of course is very relative. So I think it's best to use common sense and listen to your body. I think 1 egg a day may be a bit much for me personally, so overall I keep it lower than that and am thinking of discarding them all together. Proteins are in many plant based products as well.