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I'd feed a starving child before a healthy arahant

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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I'd feed a starving child before a healthy arahant

Postby manas » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:09 pm

Sorry if my post offends, but I just wanted to point out an issue in Buddhism, and some other religions, that I find a little disturbing. It is the idea of 'making merit' for oneself, by 'doing good works'. It sounds just a little calculating and self-serving to me. If I have an apple in my hand, and before me I see a starving beggar child, and a plump arahant on alms round, I will give the apple to the starving beggar child, yes even if that means I miss out on a million 'merit points' and a thousand years of feasting in Heaven. Give where there is the greatest need, not where it will make things better for oneself. And on the side of 'demerit' - the reason I don't kill little bugs, isn't because I would would incur a reaction for doing so; the reason I don't kill them, is because I feel for them, I have empathy for these little creatures. Same with human beings. How sad that some folks actually need to be threatened with pain and suffering, so that they restrain themselves from inflicting it on others.
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Here is a useful thread: http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 346#p18278

I recall another discussion the Ven Dhammando about this issue but I can't locate it right now.

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Postby Ben » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:39 pm

Hi Manas,

I think the idea is to give selflessly, objectively without consideration as to the benefit to oneself and without consideration where is the greatest good to be served.
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