What is "truth" and "good"?

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What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:47 am

As the title says, what is "truth" and what is"good"?


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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:57 am

Conventional or unconventional?

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:09 am

SarathW wrote:Conventional or unconventional?



Both?
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:26 am

The Canki Sutta talks about truth. MN95.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:35 am

Also, MN140 The Analysis of the Properties has this:

"His release, being founded on truth, does not fluctuate, for whatever is deceptive is false; Unbinding — the undeceptive — is true. Thus a monk so endowed is endowed with the highest determination for truth, for this — Unbinding, the undeceptive — is the highest noble truth.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The deceptive is false, the undeceptive is true.
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:39 am

chownah wrote:Also, MN140 The Analysis of the Properties has this:

"His release, being founded on truth, does not fluctuate, for whatever is deceptive is false; Unbinding — the undeceptive — is true. Thus a monk so endowed is endowed with the highest determination for truth, for this — Unbinding, the undeceptive — is the highest noble truth.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The deceptive is false, the undeceptive is true.
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But what does truth mean?
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:51 am

I guess "truth" means "the portion of the body of experience which is not deceptive."
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:56 am

clw_uk wrote:
SarathW wrote:Conventional or unconventional?



Both?


Conventional sense:
Anything wholesome to you and others is good. Truth is the dependent origination. (four noble truths, karma, rebirth, Nirvana etc)

Unconventional sense:
Unconditioned is the truth and good. (From the vantage point of conventional sense)

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby Leon-nl » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:53 pm


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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:54 am

Leon-nl wrote:http://www.buddhanet.net/cmdsg/kamma2.htm


Good link.
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