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sunyata

Postby kindergarden » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:35 pm

:soap:

IMO, Sunyata should not be translated as "empty." First, it makes us sound like Nihilists, for example, in the Heart Sutra. Secondly, it misleads the new practitioner away from the truer meaning. "It refers to the fact that no thing, including human existence, has ultimate substantiality, which, in turn, means that no thing is permanent and no thing is totally independent of everything else. In other words, everything in this world is interconnected and in constant flux. A deep appreciation of this idea of emptiness thus save us from the suffering caused by our egos, our attachments and our resistance to change and loss"...and gain. What word to use if only one word is to be used" How about sunyata?

I do not recall my source for the quote about the meaning of sunyata but it came with my copy of the Heart Sutra.

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Re: sunyata

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Re: sunyata

Postby kindergarden » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:12 pm

I did not know that the Heart Sutra was not a Theravada text. We chant it in Rinzai. I travel in many Buddhist circles, however. I thank you for the excellent sutra you posted. Still, is there word "sunyata" or it's equivalent used in Theravada texts and is it translated as "empty?" I am suggesting that if a better English word cannot be found that we just stick to "sunyata." It is too important to be lost in translation any more than words can truly mean anything.

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Re: sunyata

Postby cooran » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:23 pm

This might be of interest:

http://www.palikanon.com/english/wtb/s_t/sunna.htm

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Chris
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Re: sunyata

Postby kindergarden » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:34 pm

Thank you, Chris. "Void" seems to have a better ring to it (Neither the spell checker not I know how to spell "nuance" it seems). However, I don't think it is adequate. You may think this trivial but I am thinking of the Western seeker, of whom, I was once. Sometimes, skillful means builds on existing words in a language. Other times, it must start from scratch. No?

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Re: sunyata

Postby kindergarden » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Thank you, Chris. "Void" seems to have a better ring to it (Neither the spell checker not I know how to spell "nuance" it seems). However, I don't think it is adequate. You may think this trivial but I am thinking of the Western seeker, of whom, I was once. Sometimes, skillful means builds on existing words in a language. Other times, it must start from scratch. No?

mOrlOck suggested this translation, although, it doesn't fit into a sentence very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQm3ndwteVs :sage:

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Re: sunyata

Postby bodom » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:47 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: sunyata

Postby pegembara » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:01 am

And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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Re: sunyata

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