Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
I am undecided as to whether or not I should follow a path to Sammasambuddhahood or Paccekabuddhahood or Arhatship because I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings. Is this information at all found within the Tipitaka?
Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
Hello ccharles,
This might be of interest:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ttvas.html
With metta,
Chris
This might be of interest:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ttvas.html
With metta,
Chris
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---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
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Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
ccharles, what is the difference between those paths?
I'm not asking about the goals of the paths.
I'm asking about the paths themselves.
How will your day to day practice differ on one path vs another?
I'm not asking about the goals of the paths.
I'm asking about the paths themselves.
How will your day to day practice differ on one path vs another?
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Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
Uh can you say I want to be Samasambuddha !!ccharles wrote:I am undecided as to whether or not I should follow a path to Sammasambuddhahood or Paccekabuddhahood or Arhatship because I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings. Is this information at all found within the Tipitaka?
Or even say I want to be an Arahant !! Or even say I want to be a Sotapanna !!
Is this a serious question ?
You do realize this is like a man walking into the Vatican and asking what do I have to do for me to be considered second coming of Christ.
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arijitmitter wrote:Uh can you say I want to be Samasambuddha !!ccharles wrote:I am undecided as to whether or not I should follow a path to Sammasambuddhahood or Paccekabuddhahood or Arhatship because I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings. Is this information at all found within the Tipitaka?
Or even say I want to be an Arahant !! Or even say I want to be a Sotapanna !!
Not sure what you mean by all this.arijitmitter wrote:You do realize this is like a man walking into the Vatican and asking what do I have to do for me to be considered second coming of Christ.
Yes, I'd like to know if it is described anywhere in the Tipitaka if one of these choices benefits the most number of beings.arijitmitter wrote:Is this a serious question ?
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It's clear that a Buddha benefits the largest number:ccharles wrote: Yes, I'd like to know if it is described anywhere in the Tipitaka if one of these choices benefits the most number of beings.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... ml#iti-084
The teacher, the great sage,
Is the first in the world;
Following him is the disciple
Whose composure is perfected;
And then the learner training on the path,
One who has learned much and is virtuous.
Mike
Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
Hi ccharlesccharles wrote:I am undecided as to whether or not I should follow a path to Sammasambuddhahood or Paccekabuddhahood or Arhatship because I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings. Is this information at all found within the Tipitaka?
The way to benefit the most number of beings is to stop wanting to be anything at all.
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It's already too late for paccekabuddhahood, since you're exposed to the idea of liberation from the Buddha's dispensation and are therefore stuck with arahants, as he taught, or bodhisattvas, as he didn't teach.ccharles wrote:I am undecided as to whether or not I should follow a path to Sammasambuddhahood or Paccekabuddhahood or Arhatship because I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings. Is this information at all found within the Tipitaka?
The choice seems forced: either strive for arahant-ization, or play someone else's games.
- "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.
"And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Sammasambuddhahood, Paccekabuddhahood, Arhatship, Tipitaka... It seems perhaps you do not know what these words mean. Where did you come across them?ccharles wrote:I'm not sure which choice would benefit the most number of beings.
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Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
One cannot enter into Buddhism ( or any religion ) targeting a specific stage of spiritual development. You follow the Dhamma and the path of Dhamma takes you where you must go. It is said it took the Goutama Buddha 300,000 aeons and 4 great aeons to become Sammasambuddha. At least let us say it took him many births.ccharles wrote:arijitmitter wrote:ccharles wrote: Not sure what you mean by all this.
Can a Catholic begin life saying err what is it better to become .. a Saint, Angel, Arch Angel. He lives his life as Christ asked of him and rest follows.
I believe the next Sammasambuddha is Buddha Mettaya / Maitreya and I am sure none of us here are him.
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Re: Sammasambuddha, Paccekabuddha, Arhat
Résumé
A Buddha’s path’s a lengthy lag,
Paccekabodhi’s a lonely drag;
Rōshis are stuck in ritualistic ruts,
And myōkōnin are gullible nuts.
The mahāsiddha is a noisome corybant,
So you might as well settle for being an arahant.
(with apologies to Dorothy Parker)
A Buddha’s path’s a lengthy lag,
Paccekabodhi’s a lonely drag;
Rōshis are stuck in ritualistic ruts,
And myōkōnin are gullible nuts.
The mahāsiddha is a noisome corybant,
So you might as well settle for being an arahant.
(with apologies to Dorothy Parker)
Yena yena hi maññanti,
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)
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Thanks for leading me to the poems of Dorothy Parker, and giving me an early morning chuckle