Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayana

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Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayana

Postby Dan74 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:40 pm

I thought of starting a thread with some teachings on the difference between the two major Buddhist traditions.

There was some discussions recently and rather than rehash this old saw, I thought it might be more informative to have some resources to refer people to when they ask. I hope mods allow some controversial teachings here that may not be altogether favourable to show a spectrum of views.

Here's a few I've got at my fingertips (my favourite is the second):

Ajahn Brahm (Theravada Thai Forest):



Ajahn Amaro (Theravada Thai Forest):

http://spooksrus.tripod.com/buddha-bill/mahayana-vs-theravada.html

Ven Dr Walpola Rahula (Srilanka monk and scholar):

http://www.chuadieuphap.us/English_Section/essays/rahula_theravada_mahayana.asp

Robert Thurman (former Tibetan monk, scholar and translator for the Dalai Lama):



Joseph Goldstein and Jack Kornfield (Theravada - IMS):

http://www.beezone.com/theravada/jack_kornfield_joseph_goldstein.html

I know Ajahn Buddhadasa has said quite a lot on the subject but I couldn't find anything online. If anyone would like to contribute other materials, that would be great. Otherwise I can add to it from time to time.
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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby Virgo » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:05 pm

Edit: Nevermind.

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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby Aloka » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:46 pm

Dan74 wrote:I hope mods allow some controversial teachings here ..


Like what? ....teachings speaking about the "lesser" vehicle "Hinayana" and your own "greater" vehicle Mahayana ?

....that may not be altogether favourable to show a spectrum of views


Not altogether favourable to whom ? Theravadins ?

I don't really understand what you mean, sorry.

I also don't mean to be rude - but I think one persons opinion of a good or bad teacher or an interesting teaching may not be someone elses, so who's to say that any videos and essays posted in this thread are beneficial as 'resources' anyway ?


:anjali:


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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:01 pm

In an attempt to pour some oil on the already roiling waters:

Mahayana and Theravada

Now, what is the difference between Mahayana and Theravada?

I have studied Mahayana for many years and the more I study it, the more I find there is hardly any difference between Theravada and Mahayana with regard to the fundamental teachings.

Both accept Sakyamuni Buddha as the Teacher.
The Four Noble Truths are exactly the same in both schools.
The Eightfold Path is exactly the same in both schools.
The Paticca-samuppada or the Dependent Origination is the same in both schools.
Both rejected the idea of a supreme being who created and governed this world.
Both accept Anicca, Dukkha, Anatta and Sila, Samadhi, Panna without any difference.

These are the most important teachings of the Buddha and they are all accepted by both schools without question.

http://www.chuadieuphap.us/English_Sect ... hayana.asp
"Even if you've read the whole Canon and can remember lots of teachings; even if you can explain them in poignant ways, with lots of people to respect you; even if you build a lot of monastery buildings, or can explain inconstancy, stress, and not-self in the most detailed fashion ... The only thing that serves your own true purpose is release from suffering.

"And you'll be able to gain release from suffering only when you know the one mind."

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... eleft.html
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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby Dan74 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:51 pm

Aloka, this thread is not meant to be about contention but just providing different resources. If you have something from a teacher you like on the subject, please share.

Morlock, thanks! But I've already linked that one.
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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby m0rl0ck » Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:53 pm

Dan74 wrote:Aloka, this thread is not meant to be about contention but just providing different resources. If you have something from a teacher you like on the subject, please share.

Morlock, thanks! But I've already linked that one.


oh ok. duh :)
"Even if you've read the whole Canon and can remember lots of teachings; even if you can explain them in poignant ways, with lots of people to respect you; even if you build a lot of monastery buildings, or can explain inconstancy, stress, and not-self in the most detailed fashion ... The only thing that serves your own true purpose is release from suffering.

"And you'll be able to gain release from suffering only when you know the one mind."

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... eleft.html
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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby Samma » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:48 pm

Arahants, Bodhisattvas, and Buddhas by Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ttvas.html

Berzin (tibetan scholar) on theravada hinayana mahayana:
http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/ar ... ayana.html

Brian Ruhe, tibetan converted to theravadan (thai forrest).
This guy is a bit wacky but eh :stirthepot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BlZDpQ07cY
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Re: Teachers on the difference between Theravada and Mahayan

Postby bodom » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:19 am

The Lesser, The Greater, The Diamond and The Way
http://www.budsas.org/ebud/ebdha082.htm

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The heart of the path is SO simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice. Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing. Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this - just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle. - Ajahn Chah
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