kmath wrote:Is participating in sports a sensual pleasure?
David N. Snyder wrote:kmath wrote:Is participating in sports a sensual pleasure?
I don't know, I think it at least could potentially be sense pleasure. It could also be simply for fitness. I do stair climbing and I definitely would not call that sense pleasure. Sometimes it is pure hell, especially around the 60th floor on up.
kmath wrote:One thing that I've always loved about the Buddha is how he gave different teachings to different people at different times. So I've often wondered what he would teach if alive in this day and age. I was talking to a monk about this once and he answered by simply saying: "I think the Buddha would teach the Four Noble Truths and The Eightfold Path." And right, I know he would do that. But how might he present the teachings or what might he emphasize today that perhaps he would not have back in his time? Any thoughts?
manas wrote:Just my opinion, but I think he might have included Internet and other porn under 'sexual misconduct' for lay disciples. Even an otherwise virtuous man (or woman, though I hear it isn't nearly as common) striving to practice the Dhamma, can get lured down into a descending vortex of sensuality by this pernicious activity. A modern day man can see more naked or scantily clad women in one day, via the Internet, than a man in the Buddha's day would have seen in his entire lifetime. Very hyper-stimulating, and opposed to the cultivation of true metta for our fellow human beings.
m0rl0ck wrote:He/she would probably have a lot of youtube videos and be dressed in modern dress. i cant see the message being that much different but i think Dan74's comment about confusion is right. Getting people to settle down and just be with themselves for a moment is probably a lot harder today than it has ever been for any traditional culture.
Dan74 wrote:When I look around me (and within me), the biggest issue I see is not overindulgence, but deep confusion and suffering. Overindulgence is more often the symptom than the cause, so sometimes it seems we put the cart before the horse as far as emphasizing not indulging and restraining the senses. Many just interpret it as more shackles and more puritan fears seeing that their indulgence is almost compulsive and springs from deeper underlying issues.
People have lost a sense of balance, a healthy sense of purpose and their own place in the community and the universe. There is deep self-loathing, alienation, disempowerment, the feet are everywhere but not on the ground and the head is overfilled with a vast array of stimuli that we are ill-equipped to process.
I think the Buddha would recognize what ills each person who comes to him and recommend the right course of action which often would be to heal sufficiently in order to be able to really practice. I agree with the OP that it's not the one-size-fits all. While the Dhamma is timeless, the path to be able to see the Dhamma correctly is different for every person.
Dan74 wrote:People have lost a sense of balance, a healthy sense of purpose and their own place in the community and the universe. There is deep self-loathing, alienation, disempowerment, the feet are everywhere but not on the ground and the head is overfilled with a vast array of stimuli that we are ill-equipped to process.
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