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Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby PimonratC » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:23 am

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Are there any mp3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aysOcKwLx4

But, it to be in English.


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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:42 am

I hope not.

The Dhamma should be listened to with full attention and due respect.
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Ben » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:27 am

I have to agree with Bhikkhu Pesala on this one.
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby PimonratC » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:25 am

Why do you think music shouldn't be with Dhamma ?
I don't understand.

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:34 am

PimonratC wrote:Why do you think music shouldn't be with Dhamma ?
I don't understand.
Why do you think that not listening to music is one of the eight precepts observed by Buddhists on full-moon days, or by meditators intent on developing concentration and insight?
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby PimonratC » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:48 am

but some meditation use music (sometime sound loops) as a tool to create concentration ...?

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Postby reflection » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:09 am

Those meditations are not really Buddhist then. You won't hear those kind of things in retreat centers or monasteries for example. Meditation is to take the mind inside, not to take it outside by listening to music. Then it is not meditation, but simply listening to music...

Perhaps try to live without music for a while to see how refreshing that is.


edit: I accidentally typed "without meditation"... not what I meant of course. :)

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:49 pm

PimonratC wrote:but some meditation use music (sometime sound loops) as a tool to create concentration ...?

They are not meditation methods that the Buddha taught, and mere concentration or tranquillity is not the aim of Buddhist meditation. The mind needs to become silent so that it can see things as they really are.

Study the Buddha's teachings on meditation such as the Mahāsatipaṭṭhāna Sutta, to learn what the Buddha actually taught.
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:54 pm

Speaking for myself, I like to be in a contemplative mood when I listen to the dhamma. Even when I read, I don't like to do it while listening to music. It doesn't sink in.
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby kmath » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:13 pm

PimonratC wasn't asking if it's a good idea to listen to Dhamma with background music. He / She was asking if you knew of any way to listen to Dhamma that way. Maybe it helps him / her relax and focus. Some people like music on when they work, study, etc. In my opinion, it's not that big of a deal. Better to listen to Dhamma with music than not to listen to Dhamma at all.

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby PimonratC » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:26 am

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Aloka » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:49 am

kmath wrote:In my opinion, it's not that big of a deal


Then why have I never heard teachers at centres and monasteries from two different traditions say :"Would you like some background music?" before giving a Dhamma talk?


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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:23 am

Let alone not playing music while listening to the Dhamma, when reciting the suttas, they should not be recited with a musical intonation.

See the Gītassara Sutta
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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Ben » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:34 am

If you are going to listen to the Dhamma, give it your entire, undivided attention.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Postby cooran » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:36 am

Excellent, Bhante! Thank you.

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Marfa » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:50 pm

What if our friend is an "aural learner" and music helps him/her learning and remembering things, just as underlining and tables help visual individuals?
In this case, music would promote - and not subtract - attention and understanding of the Dhamma.

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Aloka » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:09 pm

Marfa wrote:What if our friend is an "aural learner" and music helps him/her learning and remembering things, just as underlining and tables help visual individuals?
In this case, music would promote - and not subtract - attention and understanding of the Dhamma.


Instead of speculating about his learning needs, wouldn't it be better to just ask PimoratC why he's interested in Dhamma talks with background music ?

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Re: Are there any MP3 Dhamma Teaching with background music?

Postby Marfa » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:17 pm

Aloka wrote:
Marfa wrote:What if our friend is an "aural learner" and music helps him/her learning and remembering things, just as underlining and tables help visual individuals?
In this case, music would promote - and not subtract - attention and understanding of the Dhamma.


Instead of speculating about his learning needs, wouldn't it be better to just ask PimoratC why he's interested in Dhamma talks with background music ?

:anjali:


I wasn't speculating about his learning style, just trying to point out the obvious, i.e. that attention and focus works differently for different people, so what is annoying to one can be of help for someone else.
Sorry if I didn't get myself understood.


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