Breath feels like an intrusion...

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Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby Myotai » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:19 pm

Hi everyone...

Does anyone else get that feeling? After following the breath for some time, it becomes not so much an effort to remain focussed on it, but more like it feels like the breath interupts a sense of tranquility and calm. I err on the side of it being an intrusion at the moment, opting for letting it go.

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby reflection » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:51 pm

If you can, gently let your attention go to the happy mental feeling that could have arisen at the time. If that feeling is strong enough, the breath will drop out of focus and the meditation will become more peaceful. To me this happens automatically, though, not really trough conscious choice. So if it doesn't work or presents a struggle, just return to the breath, that's fine.

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby daverupa » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:03 pm

When you 'follow the breath', what are you doing?

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby IanAnd » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:40 pm

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Postby IanAnd » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:50 pm

"The gift of truth exceeds all other gifts" — Dhammapada, v. 354 Craving XXIV

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby Dan74 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:02 pm

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby bodom » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:42 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Breath feels like an intrusion...

Postby Dan74 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:37 am

Hi Myotai, my hunch is that silent illumination as it is described by Hongzhi is quite universal at a certain stage in practice. But for lots of relevant discussion, see the following:











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