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Postby befriend » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:39 pm

would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha
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Re: t shirts

Postby Doshin » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:49 pm

befriend wrote:would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha

If you where not in doubt, would you ask ?

If you are in doubt, why are you in doubt ?

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Re: t shirts

Postby Maitri » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:02 pm

Doshin wrote:
befriend wrote:would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha

If you where not in doubt, would you ask ?

If you are in doubt, why are you in doubt ?


Sorry, but I don't find responses like this to be very helpful to the question at hand. I think the OP was looking for dialogue, not pseudo Zen quips.

Concerning the OP:

would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha


I don't think so. If you design a graphic tee with a quote from the Buddha and there is no comment about what another person should do, then I think it's fine. I've seen shirts with images like, "Know Jesus Know Peace, No Jesus No Peace" and "Where's Darwin Now?" with flames around it; that's a method of proselytizing as they are challenging statements to the viewer. Having a simple quote from the Dhammapada or a Dhamma inspired slogan ("Strive diligently") are pretty innocuous imho. I have a t shirt from India with the Buddha's face and Buddham Saram Gaccahmi on it and people at my yoga studio love it. :smile:

BTW I would be sure to get/check the quote from the source as there are lots of "fake Buddha quotes" running around online.

This shop http://www.redbubble.com/shop/buddhism+t-shirts has some amazing designs and I've bought other tees from them. Good quality items.
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Re: t shirts

Postby Anagarika » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:24 pm

befriend wrote:would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha


Proselytizing is really more making an affirmative effort to convert someone; it's usually thought to be an offensive act. So, making these tee shirts is not proselytizing, unless you were forcibly clothing people in them. :)

What you might get by selling, gifting or wearing such shirts are questions from others, or objections, so be ready to deal with the questions without offending or proselytizing.

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Re: t shirts

Postby befriend » Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:52 pm

i plan on using the phrase, "fashion your life as a garland of beautiful deeds" should i put Buddha's name underneath it so people no where it came from, or would that be too much in your face religiousness? would it be bad not to say the quote came from the Buddha?
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Re: t shirts

Postby Pinetree » Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:14 pm

would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha


No - if you'll be wearing them yourself

Yes - if your intention is for other people to wear them

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Re: t shirts

Postby Ben » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:41 pm

befriend wrote:would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha

Personally, I wouldn't do it.
By one's actions is one known.
Live a good and Dhammic life and that itself is a beacon to others.
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Re: t shirts

Postby Kim OHara » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:16 pm

I wouldn't do it, either - or very rarely - but if I did do it I would want one of the Zen Pencils "Thousands of Candles" shirts. They seem to be off the catalogue now, but the same design is there as a tote bag - http://shopzenpencils.com/collections/totes/products/candles-tote

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Re: t shirts

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:56 am

Try something humorous and not too obviously Buddhist like “This Tee Shirt is Empty.”
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Re: t shirts

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:36 am

befriend wrote:would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha

yes and no. you are essentially being a sandwich board, but you also aren't getting in peoples faces, like door to door or street proselytizers do.
I do not see anything wrong with it.
Lets see the design/s you choose.

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Re: t shirts

Postby The Thinker » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:59 am

Hi Bhikkhu pesala,
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Try something humorous and not too obviously Buddhist like “This Tee Shirt is Empty.”


You would have made a great marketing pro!
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Re: t shirts

Postby Sea Turtle » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:22 pm

Along the same theme.....

Yesterday while traveling, we saw a car with the following bumper sticker: "Hatred is not stilled by hatred. By non-hatred alone is hatred stilled." --The Buddha

Very unexpected. My response was one of delight and surprise. It uplifted my mind.

That said, I haven't necessarily had the same response when seeing the Buddha's words/image used on T-shirts or as decor. For example, there is a trendy "Asian fusion" restaurant nearby where they'd placed a large and quite beautiful Buddha statue on the ground outside the front entrance. Each time I passed by the place, it would bother me to see the statue just sitting on the sidewalk. Recently, I noticed that they raised it off the ground and placed it on a stand.

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Postby TonyConrad » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:06 am

I asked a monk at Wat Metta this one time.

I asked what he thought of me doing a rembrandt type painting of the buddha and he said he would never use the buddha or dhamma to make money.

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Re: t shirts

Postby SarathW » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:58 am

would it be considered proselytizing if I made t shirts with short Buddhist sayings like, do good refrain from evil purify the mind -buddha

Go for it. This is just an advertisement.
At least it is a good advertisement considering the fact we are bombarded with so many unhealthy advertisements.
I think you can do the front from the Pali and back from English.

BTW I would be sure to get/check the quote from the source as there are lots of "fake Buddha quotes" running around online.



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Re: t shirts

Postby pilgrim » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:03 am

Quotes may be OK, but remember wearing a Tshirt with the Buddha on it may get you in trouble in some countries.

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Re: t shirts

Postby Ben » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:38 am

Nothing beats this *Buddhist* t-shirt, in my humble opinion.
Subtle, understated, classic.

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Re: t shirts

Postby Ben » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:29 am

And there's this one for those of you who can't resist a little attention...

https://www.spreadshirt.com.au/affiliat ... Tab_O_O_LS
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Re: t shirts

Postby Aloka » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:38 am

Ben wrote:Nothing beats this *Buddhist* t-shirt, in my humble opinion.
Subtle, understated, classic.



Lol, definately my favourite!


Its also worth checking through the "Fake Buddha Quotes" website:

http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/


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Re: t shirts

Postby Ben » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:52 am

Aloka wrote:
Ben wrote:Nothing beats this *Buddhist* t-shirt, in my humble opinion.
Subtle, understated, classic.



Lol, definately my favourite!


Its also worth checking through the "Fake Buddha Quotes" website:

http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/


.


THanks Aloka
My facebook timeline is getting spammed by *I love Buddhism* which appears to be an aggressive t-shirt business that is cobbling together fake Buddha quotes with generic Buddha images. I'm having a bit of fun writing comments and encouraging people to give dana instead.
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Learn this from the waters:
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loud gush the streamlets,
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- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: t shirts

Postby samseva » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:29 pm

In this situation, I think it is a good idea to ask why you would either want to decorate yourself with a Buddha image or why you need to proclaim to others that you are a Buddhist via a t-shirt.
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