World Chess Championship 2013

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"Yes, he is amazing! I was always pulling for Anand in past tournaments, but now I really wouldn't mind seeing Carlsen win. Anand has been champion for enough years and Carlsen might do well for the sport."


Is chess a sport? I always thought it was a game.
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That is debatable, of course, but in my opinion it is a sport. See this article I wrote:

The Zen of Chess

especially this section:
http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... t_of_Chess

See also the video posted by MP. Carlsen does soccer (football), tennis, runs on a treadmill and works out in a gym.
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David N. Snyder wrote:That is debatable, of course, but in my opinion it is a sport. See this article I wrote:

The Zen of Chess

especially this section:
http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... t_of_Chess

See also the video posted by MP. Carlsen does soccer (football), tennis, runs on a treadmill and works out in a gym.
David it is not debatable, a friend of mind argued that it was a sport so that the local chess club could sucessful apply for sports grants. When have you ever see government give grants for games - well sport is a different matter. :thumbsup:

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dagon wrote:When have you ever see government give grants for games - well sport is a different matter. :thumbsup:
Okay, so that is one government's opinion. I don't place that much confidence in government and politicians to decide what is or is not a sport. Chess has many characteristics of sport besides what I mentioned in the article. It can also have big paydays for the top players, just like in other sports. I believe the winner of this current tournament will get something like $2.2 million USD.

I remember hearing (back in the Cold War days) that then champion Anatoly Karpov was funded and given a million + salary by the Soviet Union and a penthouse apartment to live in.

There are also coaches, seconds, endorsements and other characteristics that you find in other sports that they have in chess too.

See also:
http://www.chess.com/article/view/making-money-in-chess
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Game 7

Draw

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. Bxc6 dxc6 6. Nbd2 Bg4 7. h3 Bh5 8. Nf1 Nd7 9. Ng3 Bxf3 10. Qxf3 g6 11. Be3 Qe7 12. O-O-O O-O-O 13. Ne2 Rhe8 14. Kb1 b6 15. h4 Kb7 16. h5 Bxe3 17. Qxe3 Nc5 18. hxg6 hxg6 19. g3 a5 20. Rh7 Rh8 21. Rdh1 Rxh7 22. Rxh7 Qf6 23. f4 Rh8 24. Rxh8 Qxh8 25. fxe5 Qxe5 26. Qf3 f5 27. exf5 gxf5 28. c3 Ne6 29. Kc2 Ng5 30. Qf2 Ne6 31. Qf3 Ng5 32. Qf2 Ne6

Match score: 4.5-2.5

No more than 5 games left (Carlsen only needs 2 more points, which can be 2 wins or 4 draws, to win the Match)
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Game 8, Carlsen–Anand, ½–½

Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defence

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. 0-0 Nxe4 5. Re1 Nd6 6. Nxe5 Be7 7. Bf1 Nxe5 8. Rxe5 0-0 9. d4 Bf6 10. Re1 Re8 11. c3 Rxe1 12. Qxe1 Ne8 13. Bf4 d5 14. Bd3 g6 15. Nd2 Ng7 16. Qe2 c6 17. Re1 Bf5 18. Bxf5 Nxf5 19. Nf3 Ng7 20. Be5 Ne6 21. Bxf6 Qxf6 22. Ne5 Re8 23. Ng4 Qd8 24. Qe5 Ng7 25. Qxe8+ Nxe8 26. Rxe8+ Qxe8 27. Nf6+ Kf8 28. Nxe8 Kxe8 29. f4 f5 30. Kf2 b5 31. b4 Kf7 32. h3 h6 33. h4 h5 ½–½

Match score: 5-3 for Carlsen in a best of 12 series

Carlsen needs 1.5 more points to take the World Championship match which could happen with either 3 draws, 1 win + 1 draw, or even 1 loss + 3 draws
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Game 9

Carlsen wins in 28 moves!

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8. e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15. g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6 Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28. Nf1 Qe1

Anand was threatening check mate along the h file and came so close. He went for the win, but Carlsen had a passed pawn that could not be stopped.

Match score: 6-3

Now Carlsen only needs a draw in one more game, perhaps tomorrow to win the Match. He will be the new World Champion.
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Game 10

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. d4 cxd4 5. Qxd4 a6 6. Bxd7+ Bxd7 7. c4 Nf6 8. Bg5 e6 9. Nc3 Be7 10. O-O Bc6 11. Qd3 O-O 12. Nd4 Rc8 13. b3 Qc7 14. Nxc6 Qxc6 15. Rac1 h6 16. Be3 Nd7 17. Bd4 Rfd8 18. h3 Qc7 19. Rfd1 Qa5 20. Qd2 Kf8 21. Qb2 Kg8 22. a4 Qh5 23. Ne2 Bf6 24. Rc3 Bxd4 25. Rxd4 Qe5 26. Qd2 Nf6 27. Re3 Rd7 28. a5 Qg5 29. e5 Ne8 30. exd6 Rc6 31. f4 Qd8 32. Red3 Rcxd6 33. Rxd6 Rxd6 34. Rxd6 Qxd6 35. Qxd6 Nxd6 36. Kf2 Kf8 37. Ke3 Ke7 38. Kd4 Kd7 39. Kc5 Kc7 40. Nc3 Nf5 41. Ne4 Ne3 42. g3 f5 43. Nd6 g5 44. Ne8+ Kd7 45. Nf6+ Ke7 46. Ng8+ Kf8 47. Nxh6 gxf4 48. gxf4 Kg7 49. Nxf5+ exf5 50. Kb6 Ng2 51. Kxb7 Nxf4 52. Kxa6 Ne6 53. Kb6 f4 54. a6 f3 55. a7 f2 56. a8=Q f1=Q 57. Qd5 Qe1 58. Qd6 Qe3+ 59. Ka6 Nc5+ 60. Kb5 Nxb3 61. Qc7+ Kh6 62. Qb6+ Qxb6+ 63. Kxb6 Kh5 64. h4 Kxh4 65. c5 Nxc5 ½-½

Draw

Final Match score: 6.5-3.5

3 Wins for Carlsen
0 Wins for Anand
7 draws

Magnus Carlsen wins the match!!! No need for the final 2 games since it is a best of 12 series.

Congratulations to Norway and all Carlsen fans!!


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At 22 years and 11 months old he is the second youngest to win the world championship (Kasparov was 22 years and 6 months old when he won)

He joins this list of other world champion contenders who won the championship match with no losses (not counting the matches during the split era when there wasn't an undisputed champion):

Emanuel Lasker
Jose Raul Capablanca

And Carlsen is at the top of the ratings chart, which further puts him in a class nearly on his own. Time will tell with how many times he can now defend this title to see where he will place among the all-time greats.
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Thanks. Of course we are proud of him, and it is almost impossible to find a chess board in the shops these days. They are all sold out. A pity, though, that Anand(a) should lose ...
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Kare wrote:A pity, though, that Anand(a) should lose ...
You must have been the only person in Norway rooting for A-Nand(a)? :tongue:
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Yesterday Magnus officially received his check (about $1.6 million USD) and his award trophy.

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Modus.Ponens wrote:I found this truly amazing!

Agreed! Magnus is clearly a genius. 10 games at once without seeing the board... :jawdrop:

Poor Bobby Fischer. That is really sad.
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In the 60 Minutes video Magnus says he likes to see his opponent suffering and if he loses a game he likes to seek revenge. I can see why chess is popular with many people. Should we encourage our children to emulate him?....and cultivate a taste for delighting in others suffering and revenge? Just wondering.
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Magnus is not a Buddhist; we shouldn't expect him to act like one or to extend metta to his opponent. In [other] sports you find similar attitudes for how athletes or players in other games and sports feel about their opponents.

Just as in other activities, one could play chess without 'wanting to see the opponents suffer' but merely playing for a win and avoiding blunders and still have good sportsmanship regardless of the outcome.
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I, for one, do not expect him to act in any way other than the way he does act. I don't have expectations as to him behaving in any particular way. He has himself said that he enjoys his opponent's suffering and that he seeks revenge. I have no expectations other than that this is what he experiences when he plays chess sometimes. From this I can see how many people enjoy the game. My question still stands, do we want our children to learn to enjoy their opponent's suffering and to seek revenge? It's not like these attitudes are obscure and difficult to find in people....think about where and when in the world these attitudes are seen......it's scary.....

Revenge is sickness.....it is a major major problem in the world.....the examples are endless and are found in every region of the world and all throughout history. I think Magnus is probably a reasonably nice person but when he says he likes to get revenge then I say we should turn him off when the children are present and seriously ponder the reasons and meanings for his sickness when they are not.

Anything tending towards revenge as acceptable at any level is the spreading of perhaps the worst sickness of humanity.
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