Jhanas and Hindrances

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Dave,

We are not disagreeing that both need to be eventually developed. However, it seems to me that if one has the inclination, or the expert instruction, to allow one to develop one more than another at some particular point, this is entirely compatible with the suttas. Different approaches work better for different people, and good teachers will recognise that...

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I agree that it's a matter of emphasis. And since I normally do Mahasi-style practice, which is definitely in the "develop both together" camp, I obviously would not disagree with taking that approach. What I would disagree with would be claims that teachers with different emphases or sequences are in contradiction with the suttas.

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