The Great Anguttara Game

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The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:40 am

New forum game — a sensible Buddhist's alternative to associating words and writing limericks.
:sage:

I'll start:

    Two Extremes (antā)

    1. Devotion to sensual happiness in sensual pleasures (kāmesu kāmasukhallikānuyoga).
    2. Devotion to self-mortification (attakilamathānuyoga).
    (Dhammacakkappavattanasutta, SN. v. 420-4)

Now the next poster should post a list of three items, either from the Anguttara Nikāya or some other Pali source containing lists of dhammas. And the one after that should post a list of four ... and so on up to ten. When the number reaches ten the next poster should post a list of 'many' (since there aren't many lists of eleven). Then the poster after that goes back to two.

Threes anyone?
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The Not Too Bad Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:16 pm

:thinking:

    Three kinds of wholesome thought to be developed — kusalavitakka

    1. Thought of renunciation (nekkhamma-vitakka)
    2. Thought free of hatred (abyāpāda-vitakka)
    3. Thought of non-harming (avihiṃsā-vitakka)
    (Vitakkasutta, AN. iii. 446)
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:12 pm

Your forgot zero:

Zero things to cling to.

Nothing is worth clinging to, not even the Dhamma. The teachings are like a raft which take you to the other shore, but once there, you do not need to continue carrying the raft on your shoulders (similie of the raft).

(from Samyutta Nikaya 50

and one:

The one thing that enslaves one’s heart so powerfully:

Lust

(from Iti. 1-6)
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:14 pm

Now, back to the order:

The Four Noble Truths:

1. Dukkha (suffering)
2. Samudaya (suffering has a cause)
3. Nirodha (suffering can be ceased)
4. Magga (the way is The Noble Eightfold Middle Path)

(from Anguttara Nikaya 3.61)
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby cooran » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:03 pm

Five facts for reflection ~

I am subject to: 1.aging, 2. illness, 3. death, 4. growing different and separate, 5. being heir to my actions.

AN 5.57 Upajjhatthana Sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:42 pm

Six kinds of respect or esteem (gāravatā)

1. satthu-gāravatā — respect for the Teacher (the Buddha).
2. dhamma-gāravatā — respect for the Dhamma.
3. saṅgha-gāravatā — respect for the Saṅgha.
4. sikkhā-gāravatā — respect for the training.
5. appamāda-gāravatā — respect for heedfulness, non-negligence.
6. paṭisanthāra-gāravatā — respect for hospitality.

(Parihānasutta, AN. iii. 330-1)
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Jechbi » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:02 am

The Seven Factors of Enlightenment
The seven factors are:

Mindfulness (sati)
Keen investigation of the dhamma (dhammavicaya)3
Energy (viriya)
Rapture or happiness (piti)
Calm (passaddhi)
Concentration (samadhi)
Equanimity (upekkha)
Rain soddens what is kept wrapped up,
But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 am

This is no fun. You have to put some work into this. Try this quote: There are 8 causes and conditions for obtaining the wisdom fundamental to the holy life.... What eight? Don't forget to cite the text to see if matches the one I am referring to.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Jechbi » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:47 am

Ummm, is this it? It was posted right here on Dhamma Wheel ...
Bhikkhu_Samahita wrote:Friends:

Running up & down the beach delays any crossing!

The Blessed Buddha once said:
Bhikkhus, these 8 things, when cultivated and refined, lead to going beyond
from this near shore, right here, to the far shore beyond all... What eight?

Right View (samma-ditthi)
Right Motivation (samma-sankappa)
Right Speech (samma-vaca)
Right Action (samma-kammanta)
Right Livelihood (samma-ajiva)
Right Effort (samma-vayama)
Right Awareness (samma-sati)
Right Concentration (samma-samadhi)


These 8 things, when cultivated and refined, lead to going beyond from this near
shore, right here, to the far shore beyond. This is what the Blessed Buddha said.
The Well-Gone-One, this supreme Teacher, then added this:

Few humans cross to that sublime far shore beyond all being.
Mostly, people just run up & down along this barren bank!
Those whose praxis is like this even and exact Dhamma,
Will pass beyond the State of Death in quiet harmony!
Having left all the dark and evil doing, any intelligence
Seeks the luminous bright light by leaving this turmoil,
and by going forth into solitary & silent homelessness.
Secluded from lust, he experiences an unworldly bliss!
Owing nothing, the wise & clever man thereby cleans
himself of all these mental pollutions and defilements...
Mentally well evolved by the 7 links to enlightenment,
Delighting in non-clinging and relinquishment of all,
Such luminous ones having quenched fermentation,
Are fully released even right here in this world.


Image
Crossing...

Image
To the Other Side...

Source (edited extract):
The Grouped Sayings of the Buddha. Samyutta Nikaya.
Book [V:24] section 45: The Way. 34: Gone to the other side ...
http://www.pariyatti.com/book.cgi?prod_id=948507
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/sa ... index.html

Have a nice transcendent day!

Friendship is the Greatest!
Bhikkhu Samahita, Sri Lanka.
http://What-Buddha-Said.net

The Other Side...

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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:59 am

Actually, it this one I was thinking of http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html , but silly me. Any number of the discourses in AN start out that way. I think we need to refine this a bit.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Jechbi » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:06 am

I know: Let's put the answers in the form of limericks. Who wants to go first?
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:12 pm

tiltbillings wrote:This is no fun.


Fun?!? But it was never meant to be fun. It was meant to be a source of unworldly bliss (nirāmisa sukha) for Buddhists who prefer their Buddhism in a numerically ordered form.

You have to put some work into this.


Okay then, a new rule: the list of items in each new post must be clearly related to the last item in the previous poster's list. For example, if one member posts the three piṭakas, of which the third is the Abhidhamma Piṭaka, then the next member might post, say, the four paramattha dhammas or the four mental factors common to all unwholesome consciousnesses or the fourfold relinking consciousness.
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:20 pm

Jechbi wrote:I know: Let's put the answers in the form of limericks. Who wants to go first?


No, limericks are out.

The Buddha said his teachings would disappear through people's addiction to good poetry. So how much more so when people get addicted to bad poetry.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn20/sn20.007.than.html
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:39 pm

:focus:

Tilt's eighth item:

"[They say:] 'He remains focused on arising & passing away with regard to the five aggregates: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance. Such is feeling... Such is perception... Such are fabrications... Such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.' Surely, knowing, he knows; seeing, he sees.' This, too, is a factor leading to endearment, to respect, to development, to consonance, to unification.


And remaining thus focussed, he will develop the nine insight knowledges (vipassanā ñāṇa).

    1. Udayabbaya ñāṇa — knowledge of rise and fall.
    2. Bhaṅga ñāṇa — knowledge of dissolution.
    3. Bhayatūpaṭṭhāna ñāṇa — knowledge of the fear in formations.
    4. Ādīnava ñāṇa — knowledge of peril.
    5. Nibbidā ñāṇa — knowledge of disenchantment.
    6. Muñcitukamyatā ñāṇa — knowledge of the desire for deliverance.
    7. Paṭisaṅkhā ñāṇa — knowledge of reflection.
    8. Saṅkhārupekkhā ñāṇa — knowledge of equanimity regarding formations.
    9. Anuloma ñāṇa — knowledge in conformity with the four noble truths.
    (Patisambhidamagga I.1)
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Jechbi » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:29 pm

Macavity wrote:The Buddha said his teachings would disappear through people's addiction to good poetry. So how much more so when people get addicted to bad poetry.

Shoot. And just when it's time for the 10 perfections. I'm going through withdrawal symptoms.
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:39 pm

This may spoil your fun here :tongue: but I have perhaps the largest compilation of Buddha's lists at my websites:

http://www.thedhamma.com/ In the pdf book, download for free, chapter 20: Over 600 lists

or it is seen even better here at this encyclopedia category:

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?tit ... ha's_Lists

But you can still make it interesting by having each list associated with the previous as Macavity suggested.
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:17 am

TheDhamma wrote:This may spoil your fun here :tongue: but I have perhaps the largest compilation of Buddha's lists at my websites:

http://www.thedhamma.com/ In the pdf book, download for free, chapter 20: Over 600 lists


600 isn't so many really. It would be slightly larger than Prayut Payutto's Dictionary of Buddhism (also online somewhere), but well short of Dhammavara's Dhammavali which has 2181 lists. :tongue:
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:54 am

9. Anuloma ñāṇa — knowledge in conformity with the four noble truths.


    Ten perceptions — dasa saññāyo

    1. aniccasaññā — perception of impermanence.
    2. anattasaññā — perception of not-self.
    3. asubhasaññā — perception of foulness.
    4. ādīnavasaññā — perception of danger.
    5. pahānasaññā — perception of abandoning.
    6. virāgasaññā — perception of dispassion.
    7. nirodhasaññā — perception of cessation.
    8. sabbaloke anabhiratasaññā — perception of the non-delightfulness of the entire world.
    9. sabbasaṅkhāresu aniṭṭhasaññā — perception of the undesirableness of all conditioned things.
    10. ānāpānassatisaññā — perception of mindfulness of the in- and out-breath.

    — Girimānanda Sutta
    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an10/an10.060.piya.html
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:40 am

Macavity wrote:It would be slightly larger than Prayut Payutto's Dictionary of Buddhism (also online somewhere), but well short of Dhammavara's Dhammavali which has 2181 lists. :tongue:


Hi Macavity,

:thumbsup:

Who is Dhammavara and where is this work, the Dhammavali? A google search resulted in zero results.
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Re: The Great Anguttara Game

Postby Macavity » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:01 pm

TheDhamma wrote:
Macavity wrote:Who is Dhammavara and where is this work, the Dhammavali? A google search resulted in zero results.


Hi David,

The Dhammāvalī ("Row of Dhammas") can be ordered here: http://www.mahamakuta.inet.co.th/T-BOOK/P-314.html though I should have stated that it's only in Pali and Thai, not English.

Chao Khun Dhammavara is a senior Thai monk at Wat Boworn in Bangkok, a monastery that used to be a popular place for westerners to ordain.
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