Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

Postby BlackBird » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:42 am

Great posts Bhante, appreciate the insight. Is Ajahn Maha Boowa's monasteries still good places to stay?

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

Postby Sokehi » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:29 am

Get the wanting out of waiting

What does womanhood matter at all, when the mind is concentrated well, when knowledge flows on steadily as one sees correctly into Dhamma. One to whom it might occur, ‘I am a woman’ or ‘I am a man’ or ‘I’m anything at all’ is fit for Mara to address. – SN 5.2

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

Postby Thule » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:49 pm

There's a nice talk on Ajahn Maha Boowa by Ajahn Pasanno:
http://www.abhayagiri.org/audio/ap-refl ... ssing-away

He must have been quite a character.

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

Postby dagon » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:36 am

Greetings Jack

The post of yours that you had linked was in my view one of the more constructive ones made here.

I would agree with you about Ajahn Lee’s work – if I was going to recommend a text to some one that would inform then about Ajahn Mun I would go with that in preference.

You did make a comment about things not changing in Isaan for 300 years – I think I know what you were getting at but without understanding the 300 years that you were talking about it is hard to imagine who an accomplished monk would have anything to do with a book that I believe is so nationalistic.

You may find this article http://aircommandoman.tripod.com/id47.html enlightening in this regard and help you to understand the subtext of my post. It is very easy to get trapped into perceptions of permanency and as we know ….

The reference to being without access to the Pali Cannon I would have some reservation about as well. Education in Thailand was and (unfortunately) still is about route learning rather than an inquiry based education system that promotes understanding. It was in part a rejection of this approach that lead Ajahn Mun to reject the academic based focus of the Thai Buddhist elite and head off on his own personal journey involving a focus on meditation. The omissions in that part of the journey was what first triggered my suspicions about the nationalistic nature of the book – but that could just be a product of my own attachments and aversions.

As for my understanding of the Ajahn’s teaching; I have “post – it- notes”, not labels and I have no intention of speculating on the forum as to what they intended to teach – there are plenty of other people here who are willing to do that.

Not sure if that answers you question.

Sarcasm – the idea did not enter my head until I mentioned it. I personally doubt that is was you intention and even if it was I would view that as something that for you to worry about , not me.

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Re: Buddha talked to Acharn Mun?

Postby BlackBird » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:13 am

Sarcasm - You're right, it is out of my own concern and formed in part by experience with people on these forums.

Regarding your link, I'll check it out tommorow when I have some time - Thank you for your post. RE: Lack of sutta knowledge. I was thinking perhaps Ajahn Mun had quite a decent knowledge therein, I seem to recall reading somewhere that in the beginning of his time as a monk he had spent a good deal of time learning suttas. It is those who came after him (and I only have the hagiography to go on there) that I felt perhaps had lack of interest in gaining a thorough reading of the Suttas so perhaps there was some unnecessary ambiguity there on my part which did not serve us well.

I am far from a Thai Scholar, and my knowledge of the nationalism of Thai monks or otherwise is woefully deficient, so I think perhaps you're treating me as an adult in this area when I am in fact a child (one who could certainly benefit from some further understanding) and that considered I would be very careful to limit the scope of any such future comparison between Ajahn Maha Boowa's doctrine and the Sutta Pitaka to doctrine alone and not to draw any anthropological conclusions (despite the temptation).

More tomorrow

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