Viscid wrote:SamKR wrote:The important thing is the understanding of dependency. When there is any arising (experience) there is always just this dependent arising, when there is cessation there is just the cessation. I think each arising is timeless; sense of time is imputed when there is a sense of an observer (here) observing these different arisings (there) one after another. I think time becomes irrelevant once there is mere observation.
So, this reply is result of developed meditation practice, right?
The reply is not a result of developed meditation practice as I consider myself not developed yet. It is a result of understanding based on limited reading of the suttas, and pondering, and trying to apply it to experiences - which is helping me. My understanding is limited and could even be wrong, and I am open to rectify my incorrect understandings.
Viscid wrote:
Does the 'dependent' aspect of a 'dependent arising' refer to the knowledge of the conditions which necessitated that particular arising of experience?
By contemplation what we can be sure of is that independent arising is not possible, and that there are definitely conditions (
sankhara) of any arising, but precise conditions may not always be apparent. However any arising is dependent upon avijja, sankhara, vinnana, nama-rupa, and so on.
Viscid wrote:
Is there an experiential aspect to that dependency?
I think there is experiential aspect to dependency even for non-ariya. But only those who gained the Dhamma-Eye has directly seen this aspect uprooting any doubt about the Dhamma.
Viscid wrote:
And I am assuming when you say 'there is just the arising/cessation' to mean that you are unaware of anything other than that experience at that moment-- there is a sort of epoché at work?
Actually I have not studied and understood the philosophical branch of phenomenology to any significant degree, and didn't know what epoché means either.
But when I said "when arising there is just the arising", I meant in pure elementary experiences there are just those experiences (with wisdom), everything else are unnecessary concepts and reactions veiling the reality.
"... In the seen merely the seen, in the heard merely the heard, in the sensed merely the sensed, in the cognized merely the cognized ... "
Bahiya Sutta
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