Monks can create art, but not Music?

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby binocular » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:11 pm

What music, for example?

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby kmath » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:24 pm

I could give you some examples of what I find inspiring, but that has to do with my personal tastes. Everyone is different.

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby binocular » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:38 am

David N. Snyder wrote:

This is an example of "religious art", already mentioned above.

This kind of music is not the same kind of music as, say, Elvis Presley's music.

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby MattB » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:13 pm

Hello All,
Music is something that I'm currently having an issue with even as a lay Buddhist as it is and always has been my true passion in life. I couldn't imagine not playing and enjoying it, though, through my study of the Dhamma, I have gotten a pretty good idea of music's effect on my progress. Although not a distraction during meditation, in the remainder of my day, it plays as a constant background in the way of mindfulness. It is the only thing that makes me question this path I'm on and it is quite discouraging to me. If my situation hadn't been improved so dramatically by Dhamma study and adhering to the precepts, I might consider going elsewhere. Hopefully, all of us established artists can find a middle way that still allows for mindfulness and peace.
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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby alan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:26 am

Good music opens your mind. Good Art can expand the soul. No reason for the lay person to avoid appreciation of beauty so long as it does not become a distraction or obsession. As a friend said recently, true appreciation of beauty can be a part of the creative process. And what's wrong with that?

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby MattB » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:08 am

Good point Alan. The goal is to appreciate it but not become obsessed. The "high" that musicians and music lovers can get from music can be very intense. Very emotional. So much so that in my experience it can be likened to a sort of intoxicating experience. However, if one is able to obtain mindfulness and concentration during meditation and throughout one's day, then for the layperson, I can't imagine it being that harmful.

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Re: Monks can create art, but not Music?

Postby PadmaPhala » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:47 am

is there a precept for not creating music?

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