cittas arise and pass away billions per instant

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Postby Spiny Norman » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:00 am

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Postby Mr Man » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:15 am

I am not sure if you are "deliberately" trying to misrepresent but comments for the gallery like "Well, that is interesting, and so much for the Dhamma, so much for actually practicing. No need for all that meditation practice, folk." are a misrepresentation and in my opinion are not needed. I also think snide comments in like " think he got confused by an after the fact description." are also not needed.

If I am not being clear enough for you I'm sorry. Possibly I do not have the tools available to communicate effectively but I try.

The conversation started with a comment about seeing "contact>feeling>perception>proliferation". I understood the ">" to mean sequentially and my initial point was that it is "thought" (or a thought process) that connects the dots.

Retreats are most definitely "contrived" but because something is contrived does not need to mean it is without value. The are also a later development.

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Postby SarathW » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:17 pm

In regard to OP please also consider the Serial Present and Momentary Present description in Page 50 of the following link:


http://www.dhammatalks.net/Books9/Nyana ... tudies.pdf
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Postby SarathW » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:28 am

Please also read P174:
"The billionth part of a flash of lightning is a metaphor ................."

http://www.dhammatalks.net/Books9/Nyana ... tudies.pdf
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Postby robertk » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:02 am

Actually Nyanaponika is taking liberties with the word 'metaphorical' in that sentence. Time itself can only be understood by understanding the rapidity of the arising and ceasing of namas in series.

There really is no self , but because continuity hides the rise and fall we imagine "I" can decide, I can try, I can apply sati..

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