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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby Dhammabodhi » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:39 pm

Hi, sorry if I'm going off-topic a little here, but I have a question regarding sexual fantasies in dreams and involuntary nocturnal emissions. I'd like to know what Buddhist scriptures have said about this(if at all) for someone who is completely abstaining from the point of view of ethics and Sila, but the thing I'm more interested to know is how do monks(or anyone else who's keeping the relevant precepts) deal with it and whether there are techniques to reduce or eradicate this problem?

Generalizing the above, what about dreams with one being violent or with other unwholesome actions? Again, sorry for being :offtopic:

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby kc2dpt » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:51 pm

44 posts and 3 days later and the OP hasn't come by to clarify their question. Glad I didn't waste time with it. Sorry to see you fine folks getting yourselves tied in knots over what you think they might have been asking. :(
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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby Dhammakid » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:16 am

I see that happening quite often on discussion boards. Oh well, nothing wrong with a good conversation.

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:23 am

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby BlackBird » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:48 am

Here's the facts:

- Masturbation is built upon Sensual desire. Good luck having a beat while considering how best to mow the lawn and hang out the washing.
- Sensual desire is a hinderance to practise.
- Kamma-Vipaka has it that a volitional action in the present will have an effect in the future. This is how habits are formed.

Nobody is going to burn in hell for having a beat, nor for having appropriate sexual relations with their partner - But it doesn't lead to Nibbana. Sensual desire is a hinderance.

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby puthujjana » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:02 am

"Once you understand anatta, then the burden of life is gone. You’ll be at peace with the world. When we see beyond self, we no longer cling to happiness and we can truly be happy."

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:33 am

What is the nature of a hindrance?

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby cooran » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:43 am

Exactly what do you mean by "nature"?

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

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sabhava.

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

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Is a hindrance an unchanging thing?

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby Macavity » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:56 am

If you mean the nature that is shared by all the hindrances, see the above quote from the Nivaranasutta.

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Re: masturbation what's wrong?

Postby Dhammabodhi » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:27 pm

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