Is snuff an intoxicant?

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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Mkoll » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:23 pm

Dear villkorkarma,

So you don't know if you're a fully enlightened being? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

An arahant doesn't necessarily have to be dead.

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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:33 pm

Okay then I got the answer again I was looking for, thank you. I Think iam one of the calmest humans on Earth
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:44 pm

Why did you say It was ridicilous?
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Mkoll » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:18 am

Dear villkorkarma,

Because it's contradictory. The stock description of an arahant is one who KNOWS.

Being disenchanted, he becomes dispassionate. Through dispassion [his mind] is liberated. When it is liberated there comes the knowledge: 'It is liberated.' He understands: 'Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming to any state of being.'
-MN 22, Ven. Bodhi's translation.

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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:48 pm

yeah. or are certain. But what things do a master know or are certain about? :)
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:35 pm

I ve stoped with snuff now. :bow:
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Babadhari » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:17 pm

hi villkorkarma

good luck. watch the cravings pass . ive been off cigarettes for a month now, it gets easier each day
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:18 pm

Do you know its gets easier and easier?
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Babadhari » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:22 pm

from my experience it does indeed. its not my first time giving up but i do intend it to be my last.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:26 pm

Have you readed that Buddha said that you get freedom from danger by giving up cigaretts? you dont get paranoid thoughts if you quit.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Babadhari » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:35 pm

ive never read anything about cigarettes specifically, but ive read a lot aboutt the benifits of being free from craving and desire by the Buddha.

nothing ever induced constant craving and desire on a daily basis like nicotine did. i didnt smoke cigareetes for 4 years, only joints of tobacco and cannabis to the point where my mind was consumed by paranoid thoughts.

i finished with cannabis four months ago and gave up cigarettes at the beginning of december. i had some anxiousness and restlessness in the beginning but i meditated, exercised and ate healthy nutritous food. it became easier to forget about smoking and now it is in my past.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:38 pm

From my experience it is like this: its get easier and easier and I feel: Soon I can get up snuff totally, because its getting much easier from moment to moment.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:42 pm

glad to here i ve got the same experience from cannabis but i quit with that 6 years ago or 5 years and 9 months ago to be extactly. snuff started i with 3 years ago and it has become more and more until now and so have it been, but i dont feel the same craving anymore. :woohoo:
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Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:46 pm

Alcohol: It is said to be Heavy karma in a sort of way because it is a unskilled action.My experience it is like that. just one zip and I felt so bad oversensetive 2 Days after. S N Goenka said that drinking alcohol is a breaking of morality, sila. Its not the first time i feel like that after I have been drinking alcohol.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby Babadhari » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:02 am

i seem to be overly sensitive to the effects of alcohol too. i would find myself getting aggressive easier, speaking badly , becoming consumed with feelings of lust, and gave me a desire to take sstimulant drugs. i had the feeling of being poisoned the following day.

i dont drink anymore and my social life has suffered but it is good to learn to function as a balanced human with out needing any substance

taking the five precepts has given me thee chance to improve my quality of life.
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:06 am

okey :anjali:
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby purple planet » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:23 pm

what are tips you guys can give to make it easier to stop using snuff ? the more tips ect the better

i will give my ideas - tell me if they sound good : avoiding buying the snuff in the first place - and maybe donating that money

how to approach the stopping of use of snuff ? what are some good ways to do it ? how not to get despaired when we fail ?
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby villkorkarma » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:30 pm

the important thing here is why should we stop? and if we hear the holy spirit talk to us and said we not should do it? what sounds that voice like?
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby purple planet » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:20 pm

I didnt hear any spirit talk to me - never

i just think its bad for the health and addictive - and this are very good reasons not to use it

no need to try things to know they are bad things - no need to take drugs to know that people act worse when they take drugs - they steal - get mental problems - they get health problems and become very sick
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

Postby cooran » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:31 pm

Hello Purple Planet, villkorkarma, all,

Maybe some tips from here?:

Smokeless Tobacco: A guide for Quitting :weep:
http://www.nidcr.nih.gov/OralHealth/Top ... itting.htm

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