If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

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If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby curiosity » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:18 am

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Mkoll » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:27 am

Dear curiosity,

I don't recall the Buddha ever saying that nature/reality/time is considered "cyclical".

How do you define "cyclical"?

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby manas » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:49 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Hi curiousity,

One who has attained to the ending of craving is 'untraceable even in the here-and-now', so we certainly cannot define them after they have passed away. We are getting past what words can adequately describe here.

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Goofaholix » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:34 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.
"Right effort is effort with wisdom. Because where there is wisdom, there is interest. The desire to know something is wisdom at work. Being mindful is not difficult. But it’s difficult to be continuously aware. For that you need right effort. But it does not require a great deal of energy. It’s relaxed perseverance in reminding yourself to be aware. When you are aware, wisdom unfolds naturally, and there is still more interest." - Sayadaw U Tejaniya

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby walkart » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:54 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?

There is cycles, but its not mean that all will repaet in exactly the same way.

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:53 pm

Goofaholix wrote:Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.


Yes, that's how I understand it.
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Babadhari » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:04 pm

Goofaholix wrote:
Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.


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Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby clw_uk » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:43 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Only if you make the error of making nibbana into some kind of metaphysical crystal palace thats out there and that its a destination that we reach


How do you understand Nibbana?

He who binds to himself a joy
Does the wingèd life destroy;
But he who kisses the joy as it flies
Lives in eternity's sunrise.

William Blake


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