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If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

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If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby curiosity » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:18 am

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Mkoll » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:27 am

Dear curiosity,

I don't recall the Buddha ever saying that nature/reality/time is considered "cyclical".

How do you define "cyclical"?

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby manas » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:49 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Hi curiousity,

One who has attained to the ending of craving is 'untraceable even in the here-and-now', so we certainly cannot define them after they have passed away. We are getting past what words can adequately describe here.

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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Goofaholix » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:34 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby walkart » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:54 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?

There is cycles, but its not mean that all will repaet in exactly the same way.
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Spiny Norman » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:53 pm

Goofaholix wrote:Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.


Yes, that's how I understand it.
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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby Babadhari » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:04 pm

Goofaholix wrote:
Because Nibbana is the only thing that breaks the cycle of samsara, that's the point, and one of the reasons why it's worth pursuing.


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Re: If nature/reality/time is considered cyclical..

Postby clw_uk » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:43 am

curiosity wrote:How is it that one does not ever return from Nirvana to the other stages?

Does this not breach the intrinsic nature of cyclicality?


Only if you make the error of making nibbana into some kind of metaphysical crystal palace thats out there and that its a destination that we reach


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