Hi
I became a buddhist last june and then i also started to meditate
I've been meditated 30min twice a day and barley missed a day since
So to the question, i've never experienced i jhana jet (a few times i feel like i'm starting to get into one, but it disappears quick)
is this normal? Cause i've read that can get into it instant, but normally it takes time it can take a month.
I've been mediation for 6-7 months and still nothing
Where i live there's no temples or buddhist communities that i can ask so i hope that somebody here can help me thank you
Meditation
Meditation
Like one who picks and chooses flowers, a man who has his mind attached to sensual pleasures is carried away by death, just as a great flood sweeps away a sleeping village - Dhammapada 47
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Re: Meditation
Some people have quite a natural ability to get into jhana whereas others don't.
For most people intensive full time retreat practice for several months is required, and then they'd probably need to be quite mature in their practise to start with, so 30 minutes twice a day is not likely to do it.
Most non monastics emhasise vipassana in their practise rather than jhana as the time taken to get results with the former is much quicker than the latter and lay people find it difficult to set the necessary time aside.
For most people intensive full time retreat practice for several months is required, and then they'd probably need to be quite mature in their practise to start with, so 30 minutes twice a day is not likely to do it.
Most non monastics emhasise vipassana in their practise rather than jhana as the time taken to get results with the former is much quicker than the latter and lay people find it difficult to set the necessary time aside.
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“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
“Peace is within oneself to be found in the same place as agitation and suffering. It is not found in a forest or on a hilltop, nor is it given by a teacher. Where you experience suffering, you can also find freedom from suffering. Trying to run away from suffering is actually to run toward it.”
― Ajahn Chah
Re: Meditation
Hi DreBay.
Welcome to Dhammawheel.
The quickest way to experience Jhana is to.
a) Observe minimum five precepts. Preferably higher precepts
b) Practice Brahama Vihara.
Hope this may help you.
Welcome to Dhammawheel.
The quickest way to experience Jhana is to.
a) Observe minimum five precepts. Preferably higher precepts
b) Practice Brahama Vihara.
Hope this may help you.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Meditation
hi drebay
i have read many experienced instructors and teachers say that jhanas should not be viewed as something to be attained, but rather that they are a by-product that arises from purifying the mind . strong concentration does need to be developed.
i have read many experienced instructors and teachers say that jhanas should not be viewed as something to be attained, but rather that they are a by-product that arises from purifying the mind . strong concentration does need to be developed.
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......
Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......
Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
Re: Meditation
Jhana Not by the Numberskitztack wrote: i have read many experienced instructors and teachers say that jhanas should not be viewed as something to be attained, but rather that they are a by-product that arises from purifying the mind . strong concentration does need to be developed.
Thanissaro Bhikkhu wrote: This was why, as long as your awareness was still and alert all-around, it didn't matter whether you were in the first or the fourteenth jhana, for the way you treated your state of concentration was always the same. By directing your attention to issues of stress and its absence, he was pointing you to terms by which to evaluate your state of mind for yourself, without having to ask any outside authority.