Curiosity killed the topic.
Kmath... if there's any part of your initial post that you feel remains unresolved, please feel free to start a new topic, which we will try to protect against such boorish behaviour.
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh
"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine