MN 26Open for them are the doors to the Deathless,
Let those with ears now show their faith.
MN 53There is the case where the disciple of the noble ones has conviction, is convinced of the Tathagata's Awakening: 'Indeed, the Blessed One is worthy and rightly self-awakened, consummate in clear-knowing & conduct, well-gone, an expert with regard to the world, unexcelled as a trainer for those people fit to be tamed, the Teacher of divine & human beings, awakened, blessed.'
Joep wrote:Some time ago I also read something of the Buddha talking about several 'planes of existence/experience (whatever you want to call them)'. Up to the part where you only contemplate what you personally experience, I feel fairly comfortable with the teachings. However, the 'belief/dogma (I mean no harm to anyone, perhaps I just don't understand this yet)' in all these deities and planes make me put a question mark behind the 'non-theistic' aspects of Buddhism.
Could someone please share their view/knowledge on this subject?
manas wrote:What a tremendous expenditure of energy to no good cause.
manas wrote:basically a wonderful fluke, a one-in-a-million chance, that they somehow develop to sustain life
SN56.48: Chiggala Sutta wrote:It's likewise a sheer coincidence that one obtains the human state.
Joep wrote:Thank you for all your thoughtful comments.
So basically I just keep on following the path, and (experiential) knowledge (as opposed to theoretical knowledge) will join me during my journey.
I find Manas' discussion on whether lifeless planets are 'useless' pretty interesting. I for one do not necessarily feel that a planet where human life is not possible, should be considered a useless expense of energy. Perhaps the physical matter present in these planets is just as well 'existing', but in a way human beings can not relate to.
This is perhaps another interesting question: what is the Buddha's view on non-living (in our scientific sense of the word) matter? E.g. what is the purpose of a rock? I mean, if everything is the result of some previous action, something must have caused the rock to exist. And in a very distant future, the rock might also disappear. (I was not trained as a biologist, so my limited scientific knowledge might just cause me to talk bogus...)
All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
This was the last word of the Tathagata.
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